[AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles inCincinnati


fkamp at comcast.net fkamp at comcast.net
Thu Jul 22 11:16:49 EDT 2004


Perhaps he is more familiar with MegaHurts.  As in 'I feel your pain'.

I believe it is unreasonable to assume that bureaucrats have technical
savy just because they influence things of a technical nature.

There is no process of osmosis transfering technical savy through
association.  Even if there were, a politician would be imune to such a
process.

Lack of technical savy among politicians may be a blessing.  They would
only use it to massage the facts to support their political ambitions.

Regards,
Frank Kamp


Kim Elmore wrote:
> 
> Ooops.. What Riley actually said was "... don't know a megacycle from a
> motorcycle..."  I thought I'd get this right before someone else pointed it
> out to me.
> 
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
> 
> At 09:19 AM 7/22/2004, you wrote:
> >I have to agree with Don on this point.  The current FCC leadership is a
> >disaster for ham radio, and, I think, non-commercial radio interests in
> >general. The FCC credo seems to be "If it doesn't turn a buck, it is of no
> >consequence."
> >
> >Regardless of who wins in November, the current Chairman simply must go.
> >There is *no* technical expertise at the top of the FCC and no
> >consideration for it.  As Riley Hollingsworth put it, when queried in
> >Dallas recently on the technical problems plaguing BPL, there are many
> >above him who don't "know the difference between a kilohertz and a
> >kilometer" and don't care to know.
> >
> >The current Chairman is a perfect example of this.
> >
> >Kim Elmore, N5OP
> >
> >At 08:43 AM 7/22/2004, you wrote:
> >>Regardless of the politics involved, there can be no question that FCC
> >>Chairman Powell is pushing an agenda that is, without any malice intended
> >>(I'm sure he hardly knows that ham radio exists), very anti-ham. BPL is
> >>just the most widely-discussed example.
> >>
> >>The latest proposal the FCC is floating for a new way to measure
> >>interference is more scary than BPL in my opinion. It is similar to what
> >>the Feds have done over the years with air pollution control. They are
> >>proposing to measure something like an "average of total interference"
> >>across a block of frequencies. Then they would set a limit on that
> >>"average" number that would be acceptable for each frequency block. I am
> >>probably using the word "average" incorrectly. It's some sort of
> >>statistical construct.
> >>
> >>But the implication seems to be that hams would no longer have any basis
> >>for complaint about interference to their operations as long as the
> >>average interference for the block that includes the bands in question
> >>was being met. Not good.
> >>
> >>Naturally, the ARRL has protested (thank God and Hiram for the
> >>ARRL!!!--otherwise our hobby would already be gone). But Colin's kid
> >>isn't a good listener as far as I can tell. Like his superiors and
> >>today's big business CEOs, he has an agenda and he's running it. It's
> >>"Full speed a ahead and damn the torpedoes", er, ah..."interference."
> >>
> >>The fact is inescapable that Powell has been a disaster for ham radio and
> >>there's no light at the end of this tunnel yet.
> >>
> >>73, Don Merz, N3RHT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >>[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of John King
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:06 AM
> >>To: Discussion of AM Radio
> >>Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
> >>Cincinnati
> >>
> >>
> >>I thought Dave had intellect and CLASS, being a Collins Guy, but I was
> >>wrong. .
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Mike Wells" <mwells at gcea.coop>
> >>To: "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:50 AM
> >>Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati
> >>
> >>
> >> > I wish we would keep the politics out of the discussion. I certainly have
> >>a
> >> > completely different opinion on who should be running things at the white
> >> > house and it dang sure isnt Kerry or the Clintons. By the way, how do you
> >> > know what Kerry would do? doesnt sound like he knows what he would do
> >> > himself most of the time.
> >> >
> >> > Mike W0FD
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >> > [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of David Knepper
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:37 AM
> >> > To: Discussion of AM Radio
> >> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
> >> > Cincinnati
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Don, thanks for the pictures of "doom and gloom."  I sure would hate to
> >>see
> >> > something like that in my neighborhood.  I am really concerned that if the
> >> > Republicans stay in office that FCC Chairman Powell will continue to push
> >> > this technology.  Senator Kerry would remove this individual and send him
> >>to
> >> > the unemployment line, along with his Dad.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dave, W3ST
> >> > Publisher of the Collins Journal
> >> > Secretary to the Collins Radio Association
> >> > www.collinsra.com
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv at hotmail.com>
> >> > To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:03 AM
> >> > Subject: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Take a look at this incredible Rube Goldberg Contraption!  Click on "BPL
> >> > > Hi-Res" for close-up photos. Note the electrical tape on the low voltage
> >> > > side.  This junk even beats some ham installations I have seen.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.danielwoodie.com/BPLLORES.htm
> >> > >
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> >                           Kim Elmore, Ph.D.
> >                        University of Oklahoma
> >         Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies
> >"All of weather is divided into three parts: Yes, No, and Maybe. The
> >greatest of these is Maybe" The original Latin appears to be garbled.
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>                            Kim Elmore, Ph.D.
>                         University of Oklahoma
>          Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies
> "All of weather is divided into three parts: Yes, No, and Maybe. The
> greatest of these is Maybe" The original Latin appears to be garbled.
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