[AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati


Merz Donald S merz.ds at mellon.com
Fri Jul 23 13:30:17 EDT 2004


Sheesh. Maybe you should move to Russia. They already have all these great innovations implemented years ago--along with ID cards for every citizen and friendly troops with submachine guns on every street corner to help ensure your safety.

73, Don Merz, N3RHT


-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Peter Markavage
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:25 PM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
Cincinnati


"When I went to get a cell phone for my daughter about 2 months ago, I
was shocked to discover that cell phones now come with GPS locators. This
is ostensibly a "service" so the company can find your phone if you lose
it. But, of course, this means that they can also find YOU. And it is
galling that only the company can use the GPS feature, not the cell phone
user."

This should have been done years ago. Some lives might have been saved
had this feature been available.

"and we think it's so cute when CSI uses pictures from a camera at a
random intersection to help solve a crime."

Cameras should be installed at all traffic light and major stop sign
intersections.

"The Amish life style is looking better and better. Can you have
boatanchors and be a ham if you are Amish?"

No, you have to give all your boatanchors to us.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:09:55 -0400 "Merz Donald S" <merz.ds at mellon.com>
writes:
> When I went to get a cell phone for my daughter about 2 months ago, I 
> was shocked to discover that cell phones now come with GPS locators. 
> This is ostensibly a "service" so the company can find your phone if 
> you lose it. But, of course, this means that they can also find YOU. 
> And it is galling that only the company can use the GPS feature, not 
> the cell phone user.
> 
> So if we value our privacy, cell phones have joined the lengthening 
> list of things we have to guard ourselves against. Banks are free to 
> read your checks to mine data about your buying habits. Grocery 
> chains now use ID cards (for "valuable savings") to track what you 
> buy. Only the courts prevented the lets-legislate-morality loonies 
> from letting our ISPs check and block what we access on the web. 
> RF-ID tags now report when we use EZ-Pass going through a toll 
> booth. Surveillance cameras have become universal since the 
> technology is now so cheap--and we think it's so cute when CSI uses 
> pictures from a camera at a random intersection to help solve a 
> crime. And who doesn't want a car with On-Star? What the heck is 
> next?
> 
> The Amish life style is looking better and better. Can you have 
> boatanchors and be a ham if you are Amish?
> 
> 73, Don Merz, N3RHT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of George 
> Pritchard
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:26 AM
> To: 'Discussion of AM Radio'
> Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
> Cincinnati
> 
> 
> Gentlemen,
> How long will it be before the govt' adds "interface devices" to the 
> "BPL
> home internet connection" to further invade in on our privacy. I 
> feel very
> uncomfortable with potential broadband "utility monitoring" of my 
> electric
> meter! It opens the door to much invasion.
> Live Free or die. The 20 gauge and bird shot is interesting.
> George AB2KC 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Donald 
> Chester
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:17 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in 
> Cincinnati
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Actually this provides additional advantages to the Utility 
> Companies 
> >even if you don't subscribe to the internet service. A modem could 
> be 
> >hung on your electric, gas, or water meters, plugged into an AC 
> outlet, 
> >and now all meter readings could be done back at their facilities 
> via 
> >the BPL internet connection, eliminating the services of electric, 
> gas, 
> >or water meter readers.
> 
> Wonder how long before some would develop and put on the market 
> bootleg 
> "brown boxes" -remember the "blue boxes" in the 80's that allowed 
> one to 
> illegally bypass the phone co.'s billing and make free phone calls? 
> These 
> things would take over and alter the data stream to the utility 
> company and 
> illegally reduce your bill.  Or if you happened to transmit over the 
> air at 
> the critical moment and your signal caused data loss and scrambled 
> the data 
> so that you or a near by resident erroneously got a ridiculously 
> high 
> utility bill for services you did not use.
> 
> Incidentally, Apple Computers got its start as a garage enterprise 
> that 
> produced blue boxes, and once they gained some capital, decided to 
> go legit 
> and put together the first personal computer, that started a 
> technological 
> revolution, even though the machine was extremely crude by today's 
> standards.

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