[AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati


BILL WINTER k3jpb at msn.com
Fri Jul 23 15:08:10 EDT 2004


Is this the AM reflector --or a political convention
enough allready


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Ed.Hopton at checkpt.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati


>
> You're right on the money, Don.  As one of our Founding Fathers said:
> "Those willing to sacrifice their essential liberty for safety deserve
> neither."  I may not have quoted Mr. Franklin exactly, but his idea of
> liberty is what sets America apart from all other nations.
>
> It's an on-going battle to preserve our liberties in this age of 
> technology
> with all the do gooders who would use that technology to opress us in the
> name of "safety."
>
> 73,
> Ed N3CMI
>
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>              "Merz Donald S"
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>              07/23/2004 01:30          RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware
>              PM                        on utility poles in Cincinnati
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> Sheesh. Maybe you should move to Russia. They already have all these great
> innovations implemented years ago--along with ID cards for every citizen
> and friendly troops with submachine guns on every street corner to help
> ensure your safety.
>
> 73, Don Merz, N3RHT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Peter Markavage
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:25 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
> Cincinnati
>
>
> "When I went to get a cell phone for my daughter about 2 months ago, I
> was shocked to discover that cell phones now come with GPS locators. This
> is ostensibly a "service" so the company can find your phone if you lose
> it. But, of course, this means that they can also find YOU. And it is
> galling that only the company can use the GPS feature, not the cell phone
> user."
>
> This should have been done years ago. Some lives might have been saved
> had this feature been available.
>
> "and we think it's so cute when CSI uses pictures from a camera at a
> random intersection to help solve a crime."
>
> Cameras should be installed at all traffic light and major stop sign
> intersections.
>
> "The Amish life style is looking better and better. Can you have
> boatanchors and be a ham if you are Amish?"
>
> No, you have to give all your boatanchors to us.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:09:55 -0400 "Merz Donald S" <merz.ds at mellon.com>
> writes:
> > When I went to get a cell phone for my daughter about 2 months ago, I
> > was shocked to discover that cell phones now come with GPS locators.
> > This is ostensibly a "service" so the company can find your phone if
> > you lose it. But, of course, this means that they can also find YOU.
> > And it is galling that only the company can use the GPS feature, not
> > the cell phone user.
> >
> > So if we value our privacy, cell phones have joined the lengthening
> > list of things we have to guard ourselves against. Banks are free to
> > read your checks to mine data about your buying habits. Grocery
> > chains now use ID cards (for "valuable savings") to track what you
> > buy. Only the courts prevented the lets-legislate-morality loonies
> > from letting our ISPs check and block what we access on the web.
> > RF-ID tags now report when we use EZ-Pass going through a toll
> > booth. Surveillance cameras have become universal since the
> > technology is now so cheap--and we think it's so cute when CSI uses
> > pictures from a camera at a random intersection to help solve a
> > crime. And who doesn't want a car with On-Star? What the heck is
> > next?
> >
> > The Amish life style is looking better and better. Can you have
> > boatanchors and be a ham if you are Amish?
> >
> > 73, Don Merz, N3RHT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of George
> > Pritchard
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:26 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of AM Radio'
> > Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
> > Cincinnati
> >
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> > How long will it be before the govt' adds "interface devices" to the
> > "BPL
> > home internet connection" to further invade in on our privacy. I
> > feel very
> > uncomfortable with potential broadband "utility monitoring" of my
> > electric
> > meter! It opens the door to much invasion.
> > Live Free or die. The 20 gauge and bird shot is interesting.
> > George AB2KC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Donald
> > Chester
> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:17 PM
> > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in
> > Cincinnati
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Actually this provides additional advantages to the Utility
> > Companies
> > >even if you don't subscribe to the internet service. A modem could
> > be
> > >hung on your electric, gas, or water meters, plugged into an AC
> > outlet,
> > >and now all meter readings could be done back at their facilities
> > via
> > >the BPL internet connection, eliminating the services of electric,
> > gas,
> > >or water meter readers.
> >
> > Wonder how long before some would develop and put on the market
> > bootleg
> > "brown boxes" -remember the "blue boxes" in the 80's that allowed
> > one to
> > illegally bypass the phone co.'s billing and make free phone calls?
> > These
> > things would take over and alter the data stream to the utility
> > company and
> > illegally reduce your bill.  Or if you happened to transmit over the
> > air at
> > the critical moment and your signal caused data loss and scrambled
> > the data
> > so that you or a near by resident erroneously got a ridiculously
> > high
> > utility bill for services you did not use.
> >
> > Incidentally, Apple Computers got its start as a garage enterprise
> > that
> > produced blue boxes, and once they gained some capital, decided to
> > go legit
> > and put together the first personal computer, that started a
> > technological
> > revolution, even though the machine was extremely crude by today's
> > standards.
>
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