|[AMRadio] Web page appears in opposition to RM-11306|
w1eof at hamnutz.com
Mon Jan 16 19:20:52 EST 2006
I agree Brian! I've heard encroachment by SSB stations before, but never
down as far as that last contest. Some people I wrote to said I had to be
making it up, that they stopped at 7025 or 7030. But like you, I copied a
SSB station calling "CW Contest" on 7002. Disgraceful. I try to not get an
attitude toward contesters. It's never been my "thing" but I understand that
there are plenty of areas in ham radio that don't interest me but do others.
Maybe it's the excitement of the chase, but it seems like contesters take
the cake on rudeness and inconsideration when they get into the thick of it.
Let me also say that I'm sure 90% of contesters don't behave like this.
But as we all know it only takes one or two idiots to make any group look
bad. This is why some hams have problems with AM'ers. All it takes is one
splatter-happy clod, one idiot playing music, etc to make up the minds of
many that ALL AM'ers are idiots. Most of us are not like that but we get
painted with the same brush. Good thing to keep in mind when you're thinking
badly about some other group. :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Carling [mailto:bcarling at cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:15 PM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Web page appears in opposition to RM-11306
> On 16 Jan 2006 at 22:53, Donald Chester wrote:
> > The IARU band plan say no phone below 7050. Obviously the Canadian and
> > Mexican hams, plus who knows what other countries south of the
> border, are
> > not following the plan. The IARU does not have any enforcement
> power. The
> > band plan is merely a suggestion, not a legal restriction.
> Canada and (I
> > assume) Mexico have no emission subband limitations; they can legally
> > transmit phone all the way down to 7000. The US is the only
> country in the
> > region (and is suspect the world) that PROHIBITS phone below 7150.
> > Another aspect of the problem is the US licence class subband
> > 7000-7025 is limited to extra class only, so non-extra US hams
> can work cw
> > only from 7025 up, and the cw activity rarely goes above 7040
> or 7050, so
> > for all practical purposes US Advanced and General class ops
> are limited to
> > a very narrow segment just above 7025 for cw operation.
> > Since the US Extra class cw requirement has been reduced to the
> 5 wpm Novice
> > level, and there is no longer any distinction in the code
> requirement for
> > Extra, Advanced, General or Novice, what is the point of
> continuing to set
> > aside an exclusive 25 kc/s segment for Extra class cw?
> > In Region 1 (Europe) the entire 40m band is only 7000-7100,
> except for some
> > recently opened limited use of 7100-7200. Hopefully the
> broacast issue we
> > be resolved and 7100-7200 will eventually become exclusive amateur
> > worldwide.
> Don is quite right. The whole thing has fallen like a deck of cards.
> The U.S> regulations are more out of step (and out of
> than ever before, particularly on 40m.
> In the last contest I listened to, there were non-U.S.
> stations running SSB pile ups all the way down to 7002 KHz.
> Yes boys, 7002! SO much for foretelling how the "gentlemen's
> agreements" are going to work on all of the bands when the
> ARRL gets their absurd bandwidth scheme in place!
> "Gentlemen's agreements" only work among gentlemen.
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