[AMRadio] Web page appears in opposition to RM-11306


bud chiller b_chill_98 at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 19 20:13:48 EST 2006


Wow... expect grown educated men to act civil. What
was I thinking?


--- peter markavage <manualman at juno.com> wrote:

> Jim wrote: "Since CW & digital modes are acceptable
> on all parts of the
> band, why can't phone modes be acceptable on all
> parts of the band?  The
> greatest risk we run is reducing QRM in the phone
> portion."
> 
> Cause they're wider, and with RM-11305, there are no
> bounds to
> "wideness". If you think you have QRM now, can you
> picture in the future,
> AM, SSB, FM, CW, digital voice/data/multimedia,
> SSTV, maybe even a form
> of ATV, etc. all trying to operate adjacent to each
> other on the bands.
> 
> :"would make more of us gentlemen"  - I guess by
> osmosis. I see no other
> way it could happen. Of course then, why doesn't it
> currently happen on
> the bands today. Why would any mode, any bandwidth,
> anywhere, all of a
> sudden, make amateurs nicer than they are today??
> 
> :"Mode or bandwidth restrictions simply promote
> special interest groups"
> - AM, SSB, CW, digital, SSTV, etc. etc. operations
> are all special
> interest groups that form the backbone of the
> amateur radio service. Some
> are just larger than others.
> 
> Pete, 
> 
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:58:47 -0600 "Jim Wilhite"
> <w5jo at brightok.net>
> writes:
> > Since CW & digital modes are acceptable on all
> parts of the band, why
> can't phone modes be acceptable on all parts of the
> band?  The greatest 
> > risk we run is reducing QRM in the phone portion. 
> I believe that would
> make more of us gentlemen.  Despite what some think,
> most amateurs are 
> > considerate of others, RM 11305 would give us
> extra space to do that. 
> Mode or bandwidth restrictions simply promote
> special interest groups
> against the majority of us who choose not to use
> digital or CW as a mode
> of operation.
> > 
> > 73  Jim
> > W5JO
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > With no legal rules holding a band together,
> RM-11305 actually 
> > encourages
> > > "bad boy", "animalistic", and "maverick" type
> behavior. The only 
> > legal
> > > rules are license class and band edges. Starting
> up an 20 KHz wide 
> > FM QSO
> > > on 7010, while maybe not considerate operating
> procedure (based on 
> > some
> > > defining mind set), will not be illegal. The
> best you can do is 
> > wave a
> > > "Shame on you" finger at them.
> > >
> > > If you haven't read W3MIV's comments on
> RM-11305, I would suggest 
> > that
> > > you do. Albert paints a very good picture on
> where this proposal 
> > would
> > > lead us. Amateur radio service and "jungle law"
> come together.
> > > http://www.w3miv.us/bandwidth_2.html
> > >
> > > Pete, wa2cwa
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:36:47 -0500 "W1EOF"
> <w1eof at hamnutz.com> 
> > writes:
> > >>
> > >> There is a difference between LEGAL and
> considerate Don. There 
> > are
> > >> many
> > >> activities
> > >> that I COULD legally participate in I don't.
> Because it would be
> > >> inconsiderate and rude.
> > >> I would be ashamed of myself to win points in a
> contest while I
> > >> stepped all
> > >> over my
> > >> fellow hams enjoyment of the hobby.
> > >>
> > >> I guess that's my point exactly and why I find
> myself in a 
> > quandry
> > >> about
> > >> RM-11305. In
> > >> theory it sounds good but I wonder how many
> hams will take the
> > >> attitude
> > >> "It's perfectly
> > >> legal for me operate SSB on 7002, so I
> will."???
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >>
> > >> Mark W1EOF
>
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