|[AMRadio] Ranger... good news, bad news|
garyschafer at comcast.net
Mon Nov 6 21:33:26 EST 2006
I am not sure that you are really tuning up as you describe but if so you
will be flat toping quite seriously.
Using a ranger or other AM transmitter with a linear amp requires the
amplifier be tuned up with full modulation on the ranger with reduced power
out of the ranger watching a scope at the output of the amplifier. It does
not have enough carrier at full power to properly drive the SB200 and tune
The easiest/best way to find out how much drive the amplifier needs is to
use your rice box first. If you want to run 125 watts carrier out of the
SB200 on AM that means you need to tune the amplifier up for 500 watts or a
little more output with the load and plate tune controls on the amp peaked
for maximum output with a given amount of drive. That drive will be around
80 to 100 watts. Try 80 watts of carrier from the rice box and peak the
output of the amp for maximum output. If you can't quite get the 500 watts
out increase the drive slightly and re-peak the amplifier tune and load.
NOW reduce the drive until you have 125 watts out of the SB200 and MEASURE
the drive power required to produce the 125 watts out of the amplifier and
DO NOT TOUCH THE TUNING ON THE AMP!
The amount of drive that you measured is the amount of carrier you will need
from a ranger or other AM rig to drive the amplifier properly. No more no
If you want to tune up the amp with the ranger driving the amp it needs to
be done with full modulation of the ranger and a scope connected to the
output of the amplifier.
The first thing you need to do is find out how many peak volts on the scope
represents 500 watts out of the amplifier. This is done easier with a rice
box used as a driver first to establish the 500 watt level on the scope.
Once you have that you can connect the ranger as a driver.
Tune the amplifier up for maximum peak output, full modulation on the ranger
with a tone or voice, watching the scope. Adjust the carrier output of the
ranger so that you do not get much over 500 watts peak out of the amplifier.
Readjust the tune and load controls on the amplifier for maximum output
after each adjustment of the carrier out of the ranger. Always be sure that
you are near 100% modulation and not going over on the negative side.
Reducing the modulation to zero should yield a carrier right around 125
watts if you tuned everything right. That will allow the modulation peaks to
go to 500 watts peak and the amp will be loaded properly. If you don't get
125 watts or near out you haven't tuned up properly.
It is very difficult to tune this combination properly as drive is hard to
adjust easily. It is much easier to use the rice box first to establish the
Watching the scope on the output of the amplifier should show the modulation
peak voltage double what the carrier voltage is on the scope. If it doesn't
you haven't tuned up properly.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Markavage
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:56 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger... good news, bad news
> I see no reason to "dip and load" the SB-200 since it's a linear
> amplifier. When I do use the Ranger as a driver, at low power using my
> screen voltage adjustable control, it's initially run into a dummy load
> to get the approximate knob settings (dip and load, etc.) for the
> frequency of interest. Then it's switched into the input of the SB-200.
> SB-200 is tuned for maximum output while viewing an inline wattmeter. If
> output power is above 125 watts, I just back down the screen control on
> the Ranger and also check and/or adjust plate and load for resonance on
> the Ranger(generally minor touching up). You might also want to check
> your input circuits on the SB-200. The tuned input on 75M for my SB-200
> was centered around 10 MHz and on 10M, it was centered around 40MHz.
> After diddling with the input capacitance values, I was able to get those
> bands fairly close to where they should be. Check out the info on this
> web site: http://www.ne7x.com/sb200/heathkit-sb200.htm
> With the solid state rigs it's even easier. Push the button for AM, back
> down on the RF drive, key down with the SB-200 and quickly tune for max.
> On a good day, SB-200 "tune for max" can be done in less than 10 seconds.
> FYI: Scope always hangs on the SB-200 output to watch for any perky RF or
> audio anomolies.
> Pete, wa2cwa
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