[AMRadio] Photos of Damaged Mod Iron

David Knepper collinsradio at comcast.net
Tue Aug 28 13:35:47 EDT 2007

Todd, this is Dr. Dave speaking.

Read carefully - a heavy transfomer needs to be packed in a wooden crate.

Notice the lack of verbage.

Dave, W3ST
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Photos of Damaged Mod Iron

> On 8/28/07, Rick Brashear <rickbras at airmail.net> wrote:
>> I disagree.  The package was only 40 pounds and the packing looked more 
>> than
>> adequate.  It was double boxed with solid foam between the two boxes and
>> between the transformer and the inner box.  It was bolted to a sturdy 
>> piece
>> of wood that would allow for no movement inside the box, which was 
>> shattered
>> from the abuse.  The way this package was treated it would have been 
>> damaged
>> if it had been in a solid wooden box.  I've done business with Gary and 
>> his
>> packing is excellent.  I received a transformer back from him a few 
>> months
>> ago that weighed in the 20 pound range and it was packed the same as this
>> one and made it without a scratch.  The shipper is at fault here, no 
>> doubt
>> about it.
> Thanks, Rick. Having received transformers from Gary, you speak from a
> position of experience and knowledge, rather than from lack of.
> For the late-arrivals, I'll summarize: All the packing in the world
> won't protect your package from bad handling. Not average, typical,
> day-to-day handling. BAD handling. I've heard people piss and moan for
> years about UPS being awful. I've never had anything trashed by them,
> not even remotely close to this. That doesn't mean others haven't.
> Good packaging will *usually* protect your precious cargo, but not
> always.
> Even if 99% of the handlers are good workers who take pride in there
> work, you still have the one percenters who don't. Ship enough things,
> you will eventually find one of them.
> And as I mentioned in my previous post (pay attention this time, Dr
> Dave), the packaging looks bad because it is TRASHED, pulverized, etc.
> If you think the packing is the issue, maybe someone can explain why
> the wooden base it was bolted to is in 7-8 pieces? Sorta shoots that
> 'poor packing' statement to hell, eh?  3/4" solid wood, destroyed.
>>From a bumpy ride for a 40 lb. parcel in a packed trailer down the
> interstate? Yeah, right.
> We're not talking one point of impact here, a dent in an
> otherwise-clean box, or such. The entire package was trashed. It
> looked more like a ball than a box. The ends were damaged through two
> layers of cardboard, two layers of foam board. Holes worn through
> where it was dragged or slid along the floor. The sides weren't harmed
> beyond the studs being bent. Yet the same packaging was used
> throughout.
> Seems the only problem here is that I have no idea what I'm talking
> about, despite having the transformer and packaging in my possession.
> Good to know we have an expert or two available, though.
> Anyhow, I don't regret sharing my misfortune with the group. If it
> saves a piece of iron or old radio because someone picks it up instead
> of having it shipped, it's a good thing. You can count on your
> excellent packing skills and sometimes we have no choice. But the law
> of averages will catch up with you, eventually. If you can pick it up,
> do so.
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
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