[AMRadio] ARRL changes: League dumps threat to AM


Bow kd5kzn at sbcglobal.net
Mon Mar 26 02:46:23 EST 2007


I couldn't agree more.

I enjoy a bit of SWL, and there is a lot of dead air one the bands. The
funny part is the bands of the SW spectrum that are set aside to service
that probably used them at one time, but due to the new technology, will
probably never use them again.



Bow

W5EFR


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[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vince Werber
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 20:11
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] ARRL changes: League dumps threat to AM

I don't know why we don't get more spectrum anyway... look at the state of
shortware radio...  the glory days are gone and what is left isn't much
worth bothering with... Most countries use web casting to pump their
propaganda...  I don't see any real rush to shortwave from commercial
interests... no reason to... why dump money into a service that hardly has
any listeners?

We need to push for more spectrum...

Just my opinion...
73
vince
ka1iic in Maine...


On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Brett gazdzinski wrote:

> I would move up there, you got free health care and so on, but its to 
> cold for motorcycles!
>
> I don't understand why hams cant have set frequencies all over the 
> planet...the same ones....
>
> Short wave broadcast on 40 meters? voice in the CW parts of the band?
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EP Swynar
>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:11 AM
>> To: bcarling at cfl.rr.com; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur 
>> Service
>> Cc: BOATANCHORS at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV;
>> FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com; heathkit at yahoogroups.com; Old Tube 
>> Radios; MOPAGROUP at yahoogroups.com; AmRadGear at yahoogroups.com; 
>> dcboatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ARRL changes: League dumps threat to AM
>>
>> What the heck is going on with our neighbours south of the 49th 
>> Parallel...?!
>>
>> You've seemingly got a licensing body populated by little-more than 
>> did-interested, beaurocratic, career-oriented mandarins, headed-up by 
>> politically correct toadies of big money & big bu$ine$$...your 
>> largest lobby group seems to be grossly ineffective of late in its 
>> ability to grab the ear of the FCC to make it listen, because it's 
>> apparently too distracted by its own agenda & internal empire 
>> building...
>>
>> I am NOT attempting to condemn you good folks, or put you down, or 
>> set up our system here in Canada by comparison as some sort of a 
>> ",,,beacon of enlightenment" --- nothing like that at all! But 
>> man-o-man, I do feel for you guys.
>>
>> It's like you're all alone in a cruel world that simply continues to 
>> change for the worst. Obviously politics & Ham radio do NOT mix...on 
>> ANY level. I only hope things might change for you guys soon, because 
>> you certainly do deserve better than what you've been getting for the 
>> past several years, IMHO...
>>
>> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bry Carling" <bcarling at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Cc: <BOATANCHORS at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>; 
>> <FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com>; <heathkit at yahoogroups.com>; 
>> <MOPAGROUP at yahoogroups.com>; <AmRadGear at yahoogroups.com>; 
>> <dcboatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:51 AM
>> Subject: [AMRadio] ARRL changes: League dumps threat to AM
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, Paul - excellent commentary from WA3VJB...
>>>
>>> The threat to operators of old tube AM and CW rigs is somewhat 
>>> diminished.
>>>
>>> To expand and explain slightly - the part they DO want to keep...
>>> They now propose to destroy only ten meters, perhaps figuring that 
>>> since there has been a long sunspot minimum, no one will be paying 
>>> attention...
>>>
>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/03/23/101/?nc=1
>>>
>>> Wa3VJB wrote
>>>
>>>> The ARRL, a small, non-profit publishing company in Newington 
>>>> Connecticut, has abandoned a threat to impose a system of bandwidth 
>>>> segregation on the various modes and activities on HF below 10 
>>>> meters.
>>>>
>>>> In an email to the club's volunteer administrators, Dave Sumner, 
>>>> the company's highest-paid, unelected staffer, seems to have 
>>>> acknowledged the overwhelming opposition arrayed against his 
>>>> group's plan the past several years.
>>>>
>>>> The threat to AM was specific and unquestionable -- it would have 
>>>> imposed the first-ever, numerical constraints on bandwidth without 
>>>> providing a means for licensees to ensure compliance and ward off 
>>>> unwarranted complaints from those who do not participate in this 
>>>> mode and activity.
>>>>
>>>> The scheme would also have characterized AM as a "footnote" that 
>>>> otherwise would not be in compliance with their misguided system of 
>>>> bandwidth segregation.
>>>>
>>>> Sumner wrote, in part,
>>>>
>>>> Quote
>>>> Regulation by bandwidth rather than by mode of emission remains 
>>>> controversial below 28 MHz because of perceived potential impact on 
>>>> established operating patterns, so these proposals were removed 
>>>> from the list with one narrow exception.
>>>>
>>>> Those who subscribe to the ARRL can pursue the full text, which 
>>>> contains several insults and additional patronizing language to 
>>>> those of us who dared to question the scheme their group tried to 
>>>> slip through.
>>>>
>>>> Keywords:
>>>> --And for the truly paranoid
>>>> --don't know all the facts
>>>> --making their complaints and threats --have other motives
>>>>
>>>> It is important to note that the club continues to try to sneak 
>>>> through the small, remaining portion of their scheme that opponents 
>>>> had not, until now, chosen to challenge.
>>>>
>>>> Fresh opposition remarks about the fraction the League continues to 
>>>> push are now being filed and accepted on the FCC's Electronic 
>>>> Comment Filing System.
>>>>
>>>> The latest challenges join the carefully considered, well-reasoned 
>>>> arguments that gave the ARRL a severe spanking and refuted that 
>>>> group's earlier threat to AM that they now have abandoned.
>>>>
>>>> This appears to be the system of feedback the group in Newington 
>>>> prefers.
>>>>
>>>> Paul/VJB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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