[AMRadio] deliberate encroachment


Bernie Doran qedconsultants at embarqmail.com
Sat Dec 5 21:07:47 EST 2009


fine Dave, I just do not understand what I am doing. Ok?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Mayfield W9WRL" <wrl at gwltd.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] deliberate encroachment


> Because, Some guys are rock bound. It is normal operating procedure that
> AM op's take place at 3880, 3885, 3890. No one buys a rock to operated a
> vintage transmitter at 3887. You can say what you want the bottom line
> is this. the net control for the Military net should have done a better
> job, and no one should start a Q on 3887 the middle of the road. To do
> so is just not understanding what your doing.
>
> sbjohnston at aol.com wrote:
>>> If you were on the air first, the net control should have asked you to
>>>
>> move up
>>
>>> a bit, as the net was about to start.
>>>
>>
>> Hmmm...  why not shift the net down?  Nets should not have "priority"
>> over other operations.  When I an NCS for a net, I start the net on a
>> frequency on or near (as needed to avoid contacts already in progress).
>>    For example, I'm sometimes net-control for a net that is planned for
>> 3840 kHz, but often sets up on 3838 or so to avoid QS0s on 3841.
>>
>> Wherever NCS calls the net, that's the frequency everyone should meet
>> on.
>>
>> Steve WD8DAS
>>
>> sbjohnston at aol.com
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
>> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 5:08 pm
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] deliberate encroachment
>>
>>
>> I did not say anything about there being any assigned frequency. If you
>> were on the air first, the net control should have asked you to move up
>> a bit, as the net was about to start. At the same time, the correct
>> thing for you would have been either to be on 3880, 3885, or 3890. not
>> 3887. If you operated on 3887 you are now hogging 10kc of bandwidth.
>> With you on on 3887 no one can use either 3885 or 3890. Keeping on even
>> frequencys on 3880, 3885, 3890 allows all of use space to operate.
>>
>> Dave W9WRL.com
>>
>> Bernie Doran wrote:
>>
>>> Nope I was on AM.      However Dave, there is NO assigned frequency
>>>
>> to AM!
>>
>>> BernieW8RPW
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dave Mayfield W9WRL" <wrl at gwltd.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] deliberate encroachment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bernie and John. The Military net is a group of hams that operate
>>>> Military radios. This net has been around for years.
>>>>
>>>> Bernie, sounds like you were on SSB, while there are no laws about
>>>>
>> where
>>
>>>> you can operate 3880 to 3890 is designated as the AM window where AM
>>>> operators operate. If someone is using SSB here they should not be,
>>>> simple as that.
>>>>
>>>> Dave W9WRL.com
>>>>
>>>> John King wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just curious what type Military Net would be in the Ham Bands? 73,
>>>>>
>> John,
>>
>>>>> K5PGW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
>>>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 5:41:48 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AMRadio] deliberate encroachment
>>>>>
>>>>> woke up early this AM and called CQ on 3887, as there was a qso in
>>>>> progress
>>>>> on 3880.  had been in QSO for about twenty minutes and at 5 AM the
>>>>> military
>>>>> Net fired up on 3885.  All they had to do was advise that there was
>>>>>
>> going
>>
>>>>> to
>>>>> be a net starting at 5 and I  would have slid away, but no, there
>>>>>
>> would
>>
>>>>> be
>>>>> no reason to do that. I am sure it was my fault for being near
>>>>>
>> THEIR
>>
>>>>> freq.
>>>>> Probably some of the people in this group bitch about the SSB
>>>>>
>> deliberate
>>
>>>>> encroachment.  This lack of the most simple  respect  disgusts me.
>>>>> Bernie
>>>>> W8RPW
>>>>>
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