[AMRadio] deliberate encroachment


Dave Mayfield W9WRL wrl at gwltd.com
Sat Dec 5 22:22:49 EST 2009


Again, another guy who understands how to use his radios, Way way to go 
Rob, BTW nice to have you join us on the pre-net today, also good to 
have you in there.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Rob Atkinson wrote:
> Hmm, interesting turn in this exchange.  I think you are both right.
> I do not see a problem with stations gravitating to multiples of 5 for
> frequency as it seems to organize things under normal circumstances
> and helps insure that there is less QRM between AM stations.  However,
> when things get tight, you have the freedom of moving around with a
> VFO if you have one, as necessary.
>
> Think of the band as a big dinner table in a restaurant.  it starts
> out with everyone having equal space.  but people keep showing up to
> eat at the table and start squeezing in.  That's okay and everyone
> puts up with the occasional elbow going where it is not wanted but
> besides that everyone eats and is happy.
>
> So if the band is relatively free or your part of it is, and you have
> the luxury of picking a frequency to CQ on, why not pick a multiple of
> 5 or close to it if you have a VFO, but if someone is on 3873 say, you
> slide up to 3878 if there is a QSO on 3884 to 5 (not everyone zero
> beat).  You can call it the dreaded "channelized" word but I think of
> it as being sensibly orderly.  I don't like being channelized either
> but I don't mind this as it is voluntary and no one is taking my VFOs
> away from me and giving me a click stop xtal switch numbered 1-40.  :
> )
>
> 73
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Because, Some guys are rock bound. It is normal operating procedure that
>>> AM op's take place at 3880, 3885, 3890. No one buys a rock to operated a
>>> vintage transmitter at 3887. You can say what you want the bottom line
>>> is this. the net control for the Military net should have done a better
>>> job, and no one should start a Q on 3887 the middle of the road. To do
>>> so is just not understanding what your doing.
>>>       
>> Not trying to pick a fight Dave, but I have to agree with Bernie on
>> this one. Being rockbound is a choice and can be fun, but I'd bet it's
>> more the exception than the rule. Sometimes the situation dictates
>> using an odd frequency simply to give another, ongoing QSO enough
>> space (regardless of mode). Everyone I know who operates with crystal
>> control also has a VFO option available to use in order to participate
>> in such conversations. Not only that, I have a lot of odd frequency
>> crystals in the box here that were ground decades ago.
>>
>> Applying channelized thinking to today's bands for fone work is just
>> too limiting. Right up there with restricting yourself to an imaginary
>> "AM Window" tiny sliver of space. The same rules apply to frequencies
>> in use regardless of whether they are even, odd, whole, or round. It's
>> not like the bands are terribly congested these days. Expecting the
>> vast majority to restrict their spectrum use to suit the possible few
>> doesn't make sense either, in my opinion. But it is a hobby, and folks
>> are free to operate what and how they choose, within the rules.
>>
>> Of course, I also heard Bernie respond with an S9+20 signal to a CQ on
>> 40m a few weeks back 4 kcs away from an ongoing QSO I was in with
>> several other ops, then complain about the interference we were
>> causing. Being 40, I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt. (o:
>>
>> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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