[AMRadio] Paint question

David Knepper collinsradio at comcast.net
Thu Dec 10 10:52:36 EST 2009

FYI - there is Saint James Gray paint available now from NovexCom at their 
email address

They also sell S-Line Gray for the cabinets.

Paint is only $14.95 a can and s&H is $7.50 for the first can and $3.00 for 
each additional can shipped in the same box.

This firm also has an ad on Ebay.  Do a search.

Wonderful paint that is endorsed by the CRA.

The address is NovexComm, 2987 Luna Avenue, San Diego, CA 92117

Tell Dick when you contact him that the Collins Radio Association sent you.

Merry Christmas

David Knepper, W3ST/W3CRA
Publisher of the Collins Journal
Secretary of the Collins Radio Association
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Paint question

> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:02 AM, John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> My question is: Is there a wrinkled or rough finish paint that can be 
>> applied DIRECTLY over this glossy black paint? Does anyone know the 
>> correct color for the Harvey Wells Bandmaster cabinet? I am not sure if 
>> St. James Gray such as the 75A Collins line would be the correct color or 
>> not.
> Hey John -
> Nice grab, it's a nifty little transmitter. Almost looks like a
> miniature broadcast rig. Big with the mobile crowd back in the
> 50s/60s, a lot of folks ran them in the trunks of their cars from what
> I've been told. Wonder if you got the AC power supply with it?
> Earlier model Bandmasters (pre-C, I think?) actually used a standard
> gray hammered paint finish similar to the base of a D-104. If yours is
> a TBS-50D, it was a black wrinkle finish.
> As for paints and textures, if you're going for something close to
> authentic/accurate, you won't want St James Gray as it really is gray
> - not black as some think. Granted, as you noted it's a darker gray
> than the typical battleship gray seen on military gear like the R-390,
> but when you look at the truly black bakelite knobs on a piece of
> Collins A Line gear, you can easily see the difference. The SX-28s
> actually have a sort of alligator crackle look engraved directly into
> the metal panel with smooth paint, whereas the cabinets used a wrinkle
> paint finish.
> There are several rattle can choices available for the job. Krylon and
> VHT both come to mind. Rustoleum has something referred to as
> 'textured finish' which I've yet to try. The Krylon stuff goes on well
> but IMO is not tough enough for long term use. Their paints tend to be
> something more like plastic these days, not bakeable or resistant to
> damage. VHT would be my choice. It can be found at motorcycle shops (I
> got my last cans at a Harley shop years ago) though it's pricey -
> $7-$8 per can, probably more now. But it goes on nice, and can give a
> very fine, dense wrinkle when applied evenly and cured properly. Once
> it dries you can bake it to make it tough.
> Powder coating is an option but not something I'd use for an old piece
> of gear. It goes on much thicker than typical paint and can make
> refitting difficult or impossible without some re-work. It also looks
> a bit too artificial for my liking, and although tough, it has
> drawbacks like not accepting any paint over it (so mask well if you
> have other painting) or primer beneath. When it's done, it's done. If
> there are flaws, touching up isn't an option. Strip and repaint. And
> it's expensive.
> Good luck with the project, you'll be pleased with the results when
> the cabinet is wrinkled up. It really makes the front panel stand out.
> 73 -
> ~Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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