[AMRadio] AM 75- 80 meters

Bernie Doran qedconsultants at embarqmail.com
Sun Sep 27 17:17:33 EDT 2009

Hi Don: yep, I probably work about 50% ssb at the low end and about half 
will try AM.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D. Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] AM 75- 80 meters

>> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
>> what is this fascination with 3880 to 3885? last evening my s meter did
>> not
>> fall below +20 tuning through that area and each side. there is no
>> possible
>> way to have a QSO at times like that unless you are talking to your next
>> door neighbor!  Of course maybe it is just that no one wants to talk to
>> me!!   I have also been listening and calling on 7160 and 7290 for 
>> several
>> days without a nibble.    Just about ready to throw in the towel and get
>> rid
>> of my junk. Bernie
> I got on the air later in the evening, about 11 PM local time, and had a
> good QSO on 3885 with no QRM, SSB or otherwise.  The QSO outlasted me, and 
> I
> consider myself a night-owl.  I have found it easy to operate "down below"
> during the autumn/winter months when the QRN is low, but during static
> season, activity drops off, and usually about the only activity I can find
> is up in the Ghetto.  When condx improve, I find the Ghetto too crowded, 
> not
> only with SSB QRM, but with AM stations, and any QSO established very
> quickly accumulates 5, 6, 7 or more stations and I don't care for large
> groups, so I find that the ideal time to QSY down lower in the band.
>>I gave up and went to 3705, called cq for 30 minutes untill
>> dave w9ad ran across me.
> My solution to that was to build my automated CQ caller.  I just turn it 
> on,
> the recorded CQ is transmitted, and after the initial call it 
> automatically
> stands by for 30 seconds and then transmits another CQ, until I manually
> take control of the station.  That way I con work on a project at the 
> bench,
> read something, or round up my tools and tidy up the shack while the CQ is
> running.  If, during one of the stand-by periods, I hear someone come 
> back,
> I run over and take manual control of the station and reply to the CQ. 
> That
> way, I am not wasting a half hour or more sitting at the rig calling CQ
> before I can contact someone when the band is sparsely populated.
> >I could find only three or four ssb stations
>> between 3.6 and 3.7.   the low end is almost not used, if it is not going
>> to
>> be used the band might as well be changed back where it was.
> Well, from what I have read on some of the CW mailing lists, they are 
> trying
> to gather support for a petition to the FCC to do just that.  They feel 
> that
> a big hunk of  the  "cw band" was stolen from them.  Their justification 
> for
> changing it back is that phone stations are rarely using the segment from
> 3600 to about 3680, so it should be "returned" to CW. But in rebuttal, I
> would point out that the CW ops have not lost any  frequencies.  It is 
> still
> perfectly legal to operate CW on 3600-3700, so if they find that segment
> devoid of phone activity, there is no reason why they can't operate CW
> there, just as they did befor the phone band expansion.  But most of the
> time, unless there is a QRMtest going on, there is plenty of empty space
> between 3500 and 3600 as well.  And I can't see altering the band
> allocations just to accommodate QRMtests that might occur a  few weekend
> nights a year.
> But they do bring up a point.  When the band was first expanded, there was 
> a
> big scramble to get on the air on the "new" frequencies, and there was
> loads of AM activity down in the lower part of the band.  People were
> ecstatically commenting on how much better it was down there, away  from 
> all
> the QRM and chaos up in the Ghetto.  But as weeks passed, the activity 
> down
> below gradually dwindled, and one by one, stations migrated back up to the
> old frequencies, until it became somewhat of a rarity to hear any AM below
> 3875, and particularly, below 3600.  The SSB activity on 3600-3700 has
> fallen off as well.
> At one time the entire CW band from 3500 to 3750, past the old Novice 
> band,
> was as congested with CW activity as 3500-3580 is now.  But just  before 
> the
> change, 3600-3700 was almost always empty of signals, except for a few 
> early
> evening traffic nets and a few RTTY/data signals.  That was one reason the
> FCC reallocated the frequencies.  Use it or lose it.
> If we don't start using those frequencies, next thing we know amateurs 
> will
> be kicked off part of the band and we'll be listening to Brother Stair on
> those frequencies.
>>And yes, I
>> know this has been brought up before, and yes I know there are generals,
>> not
>> an excuse for most, a few hours with the license manual and you are an
>> extra. I talked with a 13 year girl a while back that was an extra!!
> That brings out the point that the situation on the bottom end of the 
> phone
> band is more a matter of Incentive Licensing and licence class 
> sub-subbands,
> than phone vs CW/data allocations.
>> I will be back on the low end tonight around 3.7 +or -15, maybe I can get
>> a
>> ssb to respond.
> Try calling CQ-AM.  You might be surprised how many SSB'ers will try out
> their ricebox appliances on AM for the first time.  Once in a great while,
> someone will like AM well enough to want to try it again, and eventually 
> end
> up setting up a "real" AM station of their own.  There are at least a 
> couple
> of regular AM'ers on the band to-day a result of CQ's that I called on the
> low end since the band change.  Also, most of the SSB below 3600 is 
> between
> 3675 and 3700, while 3600-3675 may be completely empty.  We should make an
> effort to populate that portion of the band with a  few AM  signals.
>> From: "Edward Swynar" <gswynar at durham.net>
>> I sorta hung up my Viking II & RCA AR-88LF combo into retirement mode up
>> on
>> the shelf here several years back  for the very reason you mentioned 
>> about
>> 40-meters...
>> I'd call & call CQ at various hours of the day with no responses
>> whatsoever.
>> So I finally stopped trying.
>> As for 75-meters, well, I guess some old habits are slow to die...but 
>> from
>> what I've been hearing up & around the "window" of 3800-3885-KHz, more
>> than
>> a few of the regular AM denizens seem to actually enjoy the challenges of
>> standing-up to the random (and by times, downright vicious!) heckling 
>> from
>> a
>> few of the more "expressive" within the SSB crowd...
>> NOT the sort of place you'd really want to demonstrate the joys &
>> pleasures
>> of AM phone, to visitors in the shack!
>> The part of the band around 3.7-MHz seems far more civilized. I enjoy
>> SWL'ing the gentlemen who come down there for some interesting technical
>> QSOs on AM...
>> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> Plus, there are the Europeans who operate on 3705.  I heard some activity
> last night, but I am locate just a little too far in the hinterlands to 
> work
> the usual European AM'ers.  The guys on the east coast seem to do much
> better.  But if everyone just listens for AM activity in that part of the
> band but no-one transmits, then there will be "no" AM activity heard.
> Don k4kyv
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