[AMRadio] OT : Paid Hams during Drills


Neal Newman cozy659 at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 19 20:29:37 EST 2010


That may be the Difference.. its a CLUB Station with a License and a TRUSTEE.. It is the responsibility for the Trustee to be the Control operator and should be on location( notice I did not say in the Room with the gear But Must be  ONSITE) 
an example would Be a club operating Field day. The Trustee of the Club call is responsible. But usually if there is a Club member who is an extra and they are operating in the Extra band.
 would then be the Control operator On site. Usually the Club trustee is operating at the site.
 Neal KA2CAF

--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net> wrote:

> From: Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] OT : Paid Hams during Drills
> To: "'WA5AM'" <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>, "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "'Nick & Judy Davis'" <nandjdavis at sbcglobal.net>, "'Dale Temple'" <w5rxu at comcast.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 7:04 PM
> To answer your question YES in
> Mesquite. We have
> the Police and Fire Corp were hams work alongside
> the Police and Fire and have drills on the Police
> and Fire Radios and Amateur. This is a very
> progressive community.The city does own their own
> gear for sure.Brian LOOK at VA.. Va has a Radio,
> Amp and antenna in every hospital They have a VA
> net weekly. Some VA centers do not have hams but
> do have call signs and operate the net. The
> Trustee of the station is responsible . They
> operate just like the Red Cross and Salvation
> Army.
> 
>  
> 
> Bob W1PE
> 
>  
> 
> From: WA5AM [mailto:ars.w5ami at gmail.com]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:42 PM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service;
> Bob Peters
> Cc: Dale Temple; Nick & Judy Davis
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] OT : Paid Hams during
> Drills
> 
>  
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Don't forget these agencies you mentioned have
> their OWN communication equipment, bought and paid
> for by the public via taxes.  That is why
> volunteer hams have been used for decades to
> provide communication via ham radio at or near
> these agencies.  Amateur radio has served the
> public VERY well for decades in emergency
> communications, and has always been on a volunteer
> basis.  Why does this need changing now??  Are
> hams allowed to conduct drills on the police or
> fire bands?  Not that I'm aware of.
> 
> Why do the public service agencies need our ham
> frequencies now?
> 
> If we allow people to be paid money for operating
> ham radio, we are losing the very threads the
> founding fathers of amateur radio and the ARRL
> stood for.  What will be next?  Dollars for
> working contests?
> 
> During an actual emergency of life or death,
> anyone, including the Fire Chief can operate ANY
> radio, ham or otherwise...
> 
> 73
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Bob Peters
> <rwpeters at swbell.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Brian on this one I kinda got to disagree with
> you. Here in Mesquite our Fire Chief and our
> Manager of preparedness are both Hams and by
> current FCC regs are not allowed to participate in
> any of our RACES or ARES drills or nets. All this
> new proposal does is allow them to participate in
> these events or in a case of an emergency
> participate in there command center. As the rules
> are now written they cannot pick up an Amateur
> Radio mic in any type of drill... All of our
> drills now are held at lunch hour when they are
> not working or after duty time... We also have 3
> police officers in the same situation... This is
> not commercialization of Ham Radio at all...
> 
> 
> Very Best 73's,
> Bob W1PE
> Mesquite,TX
> http://www.w1pe.com
> http://www.myhamshack.com/W1PE/
> Blog
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf
> Of WA5AM
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:00 PM
> To: jc at pctechref.com;
> Discussion of AM Radio in
> the Amateur Service
> 
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] OT : Paid Hams during
> Drills
> 
> John,
> 
> They are wanting it to be legal for say, a ham who
> works for a hospital, or
> an EMT, cop, etc., to be able to participate in
> emergency drills on ham
> radio on behalf of their employer WHILE BEING
> PAID, on the clock!  This is
> the start of the commercialization of amateur
> radio.  Apparently just what
> the ARRL wants.
> 
> 73
> Brian / wa5am
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:44 PM, John Coleman
> <jc at pctechref.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I am a little confused here, as to what would be
> changed.
> >
> > 1. Are Hams presently not permitted to
> participate in these preparedness
> > and
> > drills
> > Or
> > 2. Are they not permitted on behalf of their
> employer.
> >
> > 3. Or, are you saying that an employer can
> request, as part of your job
> > description and pay grade, that you participate.
> >
> > The ARRL info, on that page, is very vague on
> this (as usual) as there does
> > not seem to be any other info about it on the
> web page, or did I just not
> > see it among all the BS.
> >
> > John, WA5BXO
> >
> >
> 
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