[AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 3


Norb Sichterman nsichterman at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 1 20:18:22 EDT 2013


Newbie AM'er
 
I have been reading this reflector for a couple of years and what I am finding is the same old attitude as I see in clubs that have been around for many years. The attitude is that you want new blood in the AM "community" but you seem to think that if someone uses a "plastic radio" or operates in the "ghetto" is inferior and some how not worthy of your attention. There are many reasons that people don't have boat anchor transmitters and receivers, don't work 160 meters and don't stay up until 0300 or 0400 operating their AM rigs. Just to build a good transmitter and receiver would cost as much as it would to buy a Flex radio by the time you add the cost of  good modulation transformer, power transformer, chokes, tubes, variable capacitors, electrolytic capacitors, heavy switches, inductors and coil forms etc... Even if you buy used transmitters, receivers, and amplifiers you have to expect to repair and test it all which requires several pieces of
 test equipment. Then after you do all of that and check into a net or round table by the time you get to talk could be up to an hour because old Elmer McLoudmouth gets on for an hour and tells everyone about how bad it is since they dropped the code (even he hasn't used it since 1953).
I have a modest AM station consisting of an old Heathkit DX 100, Hammarlund SP 600, and an R 390A and I enjoy getting on and just chewing the rag. I would like to see a net maybe on Friday night that people could just give their call and when they want to talk they can. I don't mean to be too critical, my goals are the same as many on this reflector so I hope it is taken in the spirit in which it is given.
Norb Sichterman KF0XO



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN (Jim Wilhite)
   2. Re: IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN (W5AMI)
   3. Re: IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN (Ronnie Hull)
   4. Re: AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2 (Donald Chester)
   5. CORRECTION  re: bandplan (Donald Chester)
   6. Re: AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2 (Jim Wilhite)
   7. Re: AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2 (Max Cotton)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:40:05 -0500
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
To: "AM Radio List" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN
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OK fellows, enough of the personal remarks.  Civil discussion does not include personal attacks or information or observations about one's personal outlook or beliefs.

Please refrain.

Jim
W5JO
Moderator

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:45:07 -0500
From: W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>
To: Jim Wilhite <w5jo at brightok.net>
Cc: AM Radio List <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN
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Yes, let us please move on to something else!!  And now....


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:55:14 -0500
From: Ronnie Hull <w5sum at comcast.net>
To: Jim Wilhite <w5jo at brightok.net>
Cc: AM Radio List <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN
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Dangit, nobody abused me!

Sent from Ronnie's IPhone

> On Nov 1, 2013, at 12:40 PM, "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net> wrote:
> 
> OK fellows, enough of the personal remarks.  Civil discussion does not include personal attacks or information or observations about one's personal outlook or beliefs.
> 
> Please refrain.
> 
> Jim
> W5JO
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:19:12 -0500
From: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2
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From: Warren Elly <w1gud4 at gmail.com>

>>Politics and ham radio have no place together...
my two cents...
they're all corrupt liars anyway...makes no difference if they are slot
buckets or AMers...
they all suck!!!
so let's get back to ham radio and put a stop to this stupid crap... >>

Yep, I'm surprised something hasn't entered the discussion by now regarding
the dreaded O....  Oops! better keep my mouth shut lest I give someone the
idea.

Warren, what happened to the Florida AM group below 3700? You mentioned
recently that they had "given up" on operating down below, and moved up to
the Ghetto on 3885. I'm curious what could have  run you guys off the lower
frequencies. We need more AM activity down there. 

Right after the FCC expanded the phone band, there was a rush to get on the
air in the Extra and expanded Advanced portions. Antennas were modified,
tuners were built and several prominent AMers even went so far as to upgrade
to Extra, including Timtron. For a month or two, AM activity down there was
plentiful, and people could be heard describing in glowing terms how nice it
was to get away from all the QRM, congestion and nonsense up in 3870-90, but
as the novelty wore off, activity began to dwindle and one by one, people
migrated back to their old stomping grounds. To-day, it is rare to hear
anyone on AM below 3700, and activity on 3700-3730 is sparse.  I even
overheard a remark in an AM QSO the other night up on 3885, promoting the
ethics and merits of  limiting our AM operation to 3870-90. 

Whenever I try calling CQ below 3600, about all I get, if anything at all,
is someone pushing the AM button on his plastic radio out of curiosity and
trying AM for the first time. That's all well and good, anything to
introduce the mode to newcomers. Occasionally one of those button-pushers
will get bitten by the AM bug and become a contributing member of the AM
community, and off the top of my head right away I can think of at least two
or three prominent AM voices who got their start that way. But it would
still be nice to  work  some of the AM regulars "down below" sometime, too.
The most effective way to promote AM is not to launch campaigns over the
internet or in the ham radio dead-tree rags, but to operate on the air and
maintain daily AM presence on the bands. 

Don k4kyv



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:27:16 -0500
From: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] CORRECTION  re: bandplan
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>>Whenever I try calling CQ below 3600, about all I get, if anything at all,
is someone pushing the AM button on his plastic radio out of curiosity and
trying AM for the first time. That's all well and good, anything to
introduce the mode to newcomers. Occasionally one of those button-pushers
will get bitten by the AM bug and become a contributing member of the AM
community, and off the top of my head right away I can think of at least two
or three prominent AM voices who got their start that way. But it would
still be nice to  work  some of the AM regulars "down below" sometime, too.
The most effective way to promote AM is not to launch campaigns over the
internet or in the ham radio dead-tree rags, but to operate on the air and
maintain daily AM presence on the bands.>>

I meant "calling CQ below 3700".  Sorry for the typo.

Don k4kyv





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:58:07 -0500
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
To: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>, <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2
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One thing we could do regarding operation on frequencies other than the 
"ghetto" would be to post a message here about an hour before you get on. 
Or you can post a message when you are operating for that matter.

Most people don't tune around in the lower portion of the band because of 
the problem you describe Don, not much activity so they forget to listen. 
There are a few guys in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and Arkansas who operate 
on 3.665 most mornings around 6-7 or so but even their numbers have drifted 
lower.

So if anyone wants to operate in a place other than the "ghetto", post it 
and maybe that will stir some activity.  Also keep in mind that if you have 
the capabilities to operate 160 post your activity about it.  That would be 
a good use of this forum.

Jim
W5JO
Moderator


----- Original Message ----- >
> Whenever I try calling CQ below 3600, about all I get, if anything at all,
> is someone pushing the AM button on his plastic radio out of curiosity and
> trying AM for the first time. That's all well and good, anything to
> introduce the mode to newcomers. Occasionally one of those button-pushers
> will get bitten by the AM bug and become a contributing member of the AM
> community, and off the top of my head right away I can think of at least 
> two
> or three prominent AM voices who got their start that way. But it would
> still be nice to  work  some of the AM regulars "down below" sometime, 
> too.
> The most effective way to promote AM is not to launch campaigns over the
> internet or in the ham radio dead-tree rags, but to operate on the air and
> maintain daily AM presence on the bands.
>
> Don k4kyv
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:01:07 -0000
From: "Max Cotton" <airradio at dsl.pipex.com>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2
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Don't forget those AM 'ers in Europe on 3705, 04.30 onwards...
73 Max
M0GHQ


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