[AMRadio] "AM Ghetto"

Bry Carling bcarling at cfl.rr.com
Thu Nov 7 17:11:51 EST 2013

Actually those two frequencies are in use down here by the Florida AM Group on a regular basis.  Y'all come chat!

Bry Carling

> On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Donald Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net> wrote:
>> From: Warren Elly <w1gud4 at gmail.com>
>>> We abandoned 3675 and 3655 because we were not drawing any new AMers.
> Every week down here we have another AMer or two... admittedly, nearly all
> are newbees on their riceboxes...but most of them end up with a tube rig
> down the road, and some even understand how radio works!
> Trouble was they weren't coming down the band...most are advanced or
> generals...and the split frequency operation proved more and more difficult
> due to slopbuckets.
> Since we moved to 3885 on sunday mornings at 6 am...we are drawing much
> larger numbers, and we are also drawing a lot more on our weekend
> informals...monday, wednes and friday...
> Down here, at least as winter starts, we have a pretty good thing going,
> with three major nets, co-existing across the southeast. Southeast AM Club
> on Tuesday nights, The Gulf Coast Mullet Society on Thursdays and the FLA AM
> GROUP... AM activity will never be the way it is 24/7, up in the
> northeast... but we are seeing a lot more action on 3880 3885 and 3890... 
> We've also seen significant expansion of AM action on 40,10, 15 and 20...
> even 17 !!
> We had the sense that we were running in place down below, with fewer and
> fewer new old voices, and fewer still novice AMers.  Having led the charge
> to 3675 its been disappointing...but folks just didn't take to it like we'd
> hoped after the initial surge five years ago...
> great to hear from you... and hope to work you this winter a bit more
> often!!
> 73, Warren >>
> That's exactly what I was referring to in my earlier post. It seems that
> except for a few of us, the AM community has abandoned the band space the
> FCC gave us a few years ago from 3600-3750. I do hear a little regular
> activity on 3705, and occasionally the mostly Canadian group on 3725, but
> rarely anything else, and hardly anyone in the 3600-3700 segment.
> As for the "AM Ghetto", yes, I believe it was Derb who originally coined the
> phrase. I often use the term, not  meant to be condescending. I frequent
> 3870-90 pretty regularly myself, although I tend to operate in those
> frequencies either in late afternoon/early evening, or late at night,
> avoiding prime time evening hours.
> Ghetto: a part of society or group that is in some way divided from the main
> part. Example: Brought up in what he describes as 'a middle class ghetto',
> he imagined that all people were as privileged as he was.
> (Definition of ghetto noun from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary
> & Thesaurus C Cambridge University Press)
> Note that  this definition has nothing to do with racially-tinged negative
> connotations that have popularly crept in association with the term in the
> past generation or so, and I don't think there is any reason for anyone to
> get their knickers in a twist over use of the term. The above definition
> describes exactly AM use of 3870-90, at least in the eastern half of north
> America. It serves a useful function of allowing AMers to easily find each
> other by listening within a certain portion of the band. One problem,
> however, is that during prime evening hours it may become unduly congested
> because many AMers insist on operating too close together in frequency.
> Often there are AM QSOs simultaneously on 3885, 3880 and 3875. Five kc/s
> apart is too close for comfortable AM operation; 7 kc/s would be closer to
> optimum. In addition to the interference from too many AM signals in too
> small a frequency segment, we have the inevitable slopbuckets trying to
> wedge in between the AM signals. I prefer to avoid this segment during prime
> evening hours when the congestion is the worse, although so far this season
> I have found activity and associated congestion (both AM and SSB) on 75 and
> on 160, to be way down  compared to years past. Where did everyone go?
> Last night, or as many would probably say, early this morning, I had a nice
> QSO on 3705 with Jay, W5JAY and Mike WZ5Q with no QRM and minimal QRN. Those
> guys were still going strong after they put ME to bed!
> Don k4kyv
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