[AMRadio] Antenna issues.

Jay Bromley jayw5jay at cox.net
Mon Jul 7 15:28:29 EDT 2014

Hi Rob,
That is the way it should be IMHO, working together.  I just sent out a
funny but true story on grass clippings.  If the neighbor had asked me in
person I would have told her why I didn't get them up that day.  If she had
asked the other neighbors she would have learned I was a good guy.  It is
always better to be in person, but so many just want to be invisible

Getting back to antennas, this is a great neighborhood overall.  Many folks
walk during the evening, it never fails they look at the antennas, but no
one really cares enough to ask what they are.  I often wonder what they are
thinking when they look, but know enough not to ask them!  :-)  73 de

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Subject: [AMRadio] Antenna issues.

Then we also have to deal with someone in the neighborhood, we have NO HOA
or covenants, that is suddenly knocking on your door complaining that your
signal is getting into his Chinese made wireless phone handset.

I've had to set him down and explain that his phone is covered under Part

Trying to nicely explain that it isn't my fault that my "clean" signal gets
into his phone.

I fired up the radio, showed him the monitor scope, and the power output.

That and the fact that my signal did NOT get into my wireless handset, which
is less than 8 feet away from the transmitter.

That is the ONE and ONLY squawk since 1988.

None before him and none after him.

Most of the neighborhood was "still" on outdoor antennas attached to their
chimneys, myself included.

Bob - N0DGN

On 7/7/2014 2:37 PM, Jay Bromley wrote:
> Hi Rob and Don,
> I think we are seeing just the culture changing.  I taught a 
> technician class just a year ago and we had the largest turn out ever 
> and all got their license.  I spent tons of time talking about 
> antennas and more than one evening on just "antennas".  I would always 
> preach antenna, antenna, antenna!
> Two things I noticed right off, gone are the ex-CBers, replaced by the 
> storm chaser want-ta-bees, the survivalists, and a few others had 
> family members they wanted to emulate that were now SK status.
> I had one gentleman in particular that agonized for weeks over getting 
> his first antenna up I the air!  I would go over to his QTH and say 
> something like you have such nice trees just hang up a doublet off 
> them.  His reply was, oh my wife would never allow me to do that or 
> that would look ugly.  I am not sure about the wife comment as she was 
> in the class as well and got her license too.  She was pushing and 
> supporting him the whole way.  The home they have is in a nice 
> neighborhood and it is indeed a nice looking place.  However to me I 
> don't think a few wires in the tree tops would have hurt anything!  
> Most of the time you get them high enough you never see them!
> In his case he was looking for a single antenna that works all the 
> bands and is not that big.  One of those not so cheap do it all 
> verticals, that have horrible performance, he kept looking at and 
> coming back to!  Some of the class just didn't get all my preaching 
> about the single most important thing in a station is the antenna.  In 
> the end, I got him to put up a simple 2 element Moxon.  He is working 
> the world, but he doesn't have the experience to know just how much 
> money and grief I saved him.  So in the end, I am not sure I did him 
> any good.  I have seen guys quit the hobby over a POC antenna and not 
> making contacts, but did he really learn anything from me in the end
without the struggling for himself?
> I've even noticed myself changing on this, not the antennas per say, 
> but prefer to do my antenna hanging when folks are not at home.  As 
> they walk by they always look up, but no one has ever said a thing to 
> me.  Still I just heard the other day at another ham's home someone  
> asking if the outside antenna was even legal and this was not in protected
sub division!!
> Just getting more land may not the solution either.  Just ask a few 
> hams that have tons of acreage that went to court over their antennas!  
> This antenna thing is getting to be a real hassle even with the some 
> of the folks that have the land that wanted to put up some nice 
> towers.  Now some counties are having antenna ordinances added to their
> Just like so many things in our lives now, a few decades ago no one 
> would have cared or say anything!  A real shame IMHO.  Antennas are 
> ham radio and no ham should have to worry about what he does on his 
> own land as long as it is done in a safe manner!  73 de w5jay..

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