[AMRadio] HOAs fighting antenna Parity Act proposal H.R. 1301

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Fri Aug 21 06:44:58 EDT 2015

You guys sure are not supportive of the Ham group in general...OK...that's fine.

You don't think there are things needing changing?

It's OK for all hams to have to live in a old, non-CCR area or town or in the country....even when you get older and want to have a nice area with amenities?

What if you own a home in a CCR and then get interested in ham radio...sell the house.

Why not support an effort to change something that would help the group?

Maybe the ham group I used to know (I have been a ham since 1966) is gone? Ones that support each other.

If any of you guys in the future still want to be a ham and want to move to a nice new addition (I DON'T MEAN JUST GATED COMMUNITIES EITHER) you will see why this is wrong and needs fixing.

It probably won't pass and you guys will be happy that people that chose those places get what they have coming/

Well....I have talked to LOT's of fellow hams about this and fortunately you don't represent the majority.



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
Cc: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] HOAs fighting antenna Parity Act proposal H.R. 1301

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>

> Firstly, that 700K number doesn't really reflect the number of
> active hams out there.   Won't waste any more time on

Probably a good choice, as it removes the need to clarify what your
use of
the word 'most' actually means. It's a lot like say 'most' support
ARRL. In disagreeing with the latter, I'd bet it's okay to use the
figure, though. (o:

> More important, is how sad, very sad it is that
folks, not hams only
> mind you, but people in general, willingly and freely
sign away their
> rights, rights men fought in wars to give us, to some
> committee, who will rule over them as to what color they can
> their homes, whether or not they can have a trailer in the driveway
and any number of other closed sphincter hand wringing obsessions.
> I've even
heard news stories about these HOA committees telling folks
> they can't fly
the US flag out in their front yards.   That kind of
> thing is clearly and
dramatically not what men signed the Declaration
> of Independence

Couldn't agree more, Rob. It's ironic that you mention that. I
thought that
very thing today and wondered - where was all the outrage among
hams as
American citizens, when veterans weren't allowed to fly a simple flag
their yard? Why didn't the League or anyone else mount a defense or
then, using the same basic arguments they're using now?

But on the
other hand, I suspect 'most' of the folks who join these HOAs
are happy to do
so. As Lee so clearly pointed out, they offer the
lifestyle, the amenities, the
comforts that many city folk and older
retirees want. They could care less
about amateur radio and in fact most
think towers and a bunch of aluminum in
the air is ugly.

So while your description above makes it sound more like
masses of
innocent, unsuspecting people being marched off to gulags somewhere
their will and being forced to give up their freedoms, the reality is
much different. That's what makes it possible for some place like
Villages to sell 200 new homes in a month.

We just need to recognize not
only the reality of it, but the hypocrisy of
this entire nonsense. Those who
want to live in gated communities with
rules should be free to do so without
being told they have to allow one of
the very things they moved there to
escape. And the rest of us should be
able to live in the outside world without
being told that we have to live
like them. Freedom of choice. What a

Just remember - asking the government to step in and take away
else's rights on your behalf is an invitation for them to do the same
you, at any time. But I guess it fits the selfish nature of the
climate not to think beyond the instant gratification of getting one's

Fortunately it's going to be a hard sell convincing even congress that
many should be forced to change their legally binding contracts to suit
few who want to have their cake and eat it too - at everyone
expense. Television antennae were one thing; you can't deny someone
access to information. But making such a huge exception for a
involving so few? Don't hold your breath. Or better still - pray it
happen. It won't bode well for the future. Just look at the
interpretation of Eminent Domain if you need proof.

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