From hallicrafterssr2000 at k9axn.com Tue Feb 3 19:15:58 2015 From: hallicrafterssr2000 at k9axn.com (Jim Liles) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:15:58 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] Protocol to remove a stuck slug. Message-ID: <2056E18D3BF149C6A94AA4FF97D71143@LILESJLAPTOP> Hi Curt, The coil is loose in the mount because someone tried to drill it out or aggressively twisted it. These old slugs have become fragile over the years and often crack when you try to align the radio. There is no way to get that thing out without destroying it. Here is a simple foolproof way to do it without doing any damage. Take a coping saw blade that will fit through the existing hole and break the end off. Drill a hole in a dowel rod and epoxy the coping saw blade into it with the rake of the teeth facing out so it will cut while pulling it outward. Gently, with patience, cut a slice in the slug then do another without going completely through. Get your favorite vacuum nozzle and gently probe the slug to see if it will collapse. If not, do a little more. This method is absolute --- it works every time without fail and I have very shaky hands. It has worked for me hundreds of times. We have also replaced the coils that have been torn loose from drilling or aggressively twisting. I?m not a brain surgeon and don?t wish to be but in the Hal line of radios, you need someone from the Mayo clinic to direct the job. Good luck --- Kindest regards Jim K9AXN From ne1s at securespeed.us Thu Feb 5 16:41:58 2015 From: ne1s at securespeed.us (Larry Szendrei) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:41:58 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] AWA AM QSO Party this weekend! Message-ID: <54D3E3A6.7090603@securespeed.us> Hi, all. The Antique Wireless Association is having its AM QSO Party this weekend from 2300Z Saturday Feb. 7th to 2300Z Sunday Feb 8th. This is a laid-back event; the minimum required exchange is name and QTH (and, presumably, callsign!), and you don't need to submit a log, just a brief summary. Of course, longer conversations about gear, etc. are encouraged and make it more fun. More details at: http://www.antiquewireless.org/awa-amplitude-modulation-qso-party.html I'll be operating from my Maine QTH as flagship station W2AN somewhere between 1880 - 1900 KHz between 6PM and 9PM EST. Please drop by and say hello. 73, -Larry/NE1S From llsdigitek at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 16:50:32 2015 From: llsdigitek at gmail.com (Lloyd Smith DigiTek) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:50:32 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 133, Issue 1 References: Message-ID: <1E4DCAC5F1E24B00BA47BB244C5F141B@slammer> http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,88897.0.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:42 PM Subject: AMRadio Digest, Vol 133, Issue 1 > Send AMRadio mailing list submissions to > amradio at mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amradio-request at mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amradio-owner at mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMRadio digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Antenna Relays (JAMES HANLON) > 2. HF Antenna Tuner and HF related antenna items FS > (Ken Simpson, W8EK) > 3. Amplifier (john nelson) > 4. Protocol to remove a stuck slug. (Jim Liles) > 5. AWA AM QSO Party this weekend! (Larry Szendrei) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:28:02 -0700 > From: JAMES HANLON > To: AMradio > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antenna Relays > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Steve, I like to operate QSK (break-in) CW and I use a relay to switch the > 50 ohm antenna line coming from my transmatch and going to either my > receiver or my transmitter. I use a Western Electric mercury wetted > relay, they type housed in an octal-based tube casing about the size of a > metal 6V6. You can find suitable relays on the Surplus Sales of Nebraska > web site at https:// blu184.mail.live.com/?pages=compose . The 276G relay > has one SPDT contact and a 700 ohm coil that they rate for 12 to 24 vdc. > It sells for $10. Actually the contacts are a little more complicated > than just the normal SPDT switch. Each stationary contact, on both the > normally closed side and the normally open side, has two electrodes > mechanically and electrically separated from one another. The "swinger" > contact has a bar which makes contact with both of the stationary contacts > and shorts them together. They were made this way, I think, to perform a > logic function in the old, electromechanical te > lephone exchanges. But you can just wire the two normally-open contacts > together and the two normally-closed contacts together and treat them like > a standard SPDT relay. The DC rating for the 276 relay contacts is 5 > amps maximum. I have a time-sequenced keying circuit so that I don't turn > on the transmitter until after the antenna relay has completed its > switching cycle - I don't "hot switch" my antenna relay. Used in this > service, my 276 relay holds the output of my Heathkit SB-200 amplifier, > about 600 watts, into a nominal 50 ohm load. That works out to about 3.46 > amps of RF current. 5 amps would work out to 1250 watts through the > relay. The reasons why I use a mercury-wetted relay are as follows. They > are "fast" as relays go, they operate and release in less than 1 > millisecond. They have very low contact resistance, under 20 milliohms. > They have absolutely no contact "bounce" like normal, dry contact relays > have. Once the contacts close, they stay closed, once > they open they stay open. Now that I think about it, the 276 type relay > actually has a short period of time during the operating cycle when the NO > contacts, the swinger, and the NC contacts are all bridged together. But > this gives me no problem since I don't turn my transmitter on until after > the antenna relay switching cycle is completed and I turn the transmitter > off before I release the antenna relay. One caution, the mercury wetted > relays must be operated reasonably close to vertical, upright, with the > octal base down. If you turn them "upside down," the liquid mercury > inside can flow down onto the contacts and the swinger and short them out. > I have no noticeable problem with an "impedance bump" with this antenna > relay through 10 meters. I operate it with both tube-type transmitters > and with a Ten Tec Triton IV transceiver. If you'd be interested in > further information on my QSK keyer, I can supply a copy of an article > that I wrote about it for Electric Radio M > agazine, October 1996, page 20. My keyer switches the antenna relay and > generates separate, nested keying closures for the oscillator and > amplifier stages of my transmitters. So the keying sequence when I press > and release my key goes: 1-Antenna relay transfer from receiver to > transmitter and receiver cutback, 2- Oscillator key closure, 3-Amplifier > key closure, 4-Amplifier key opening, 5-Oscillator key opening, 6-Antenna > relay transfer from transmitter to receiver and receiver recovery. This > all happens fast enough so that I am able to listen to what's going on > between dots and dashes to well over 30 wpm. I'm not enough of a CW speed > demon to ever have pushed it to the point where it doesn't recover between > characters. Hope this is interesting, Jim Hanlon, W8KGI > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:44:24 -0500 > From: "Ken Simpson, W8EK" > To: amateurradiomarketplace Yahoo > , > "amateurswap at yahoogroups.com" , > AmatuerRadioSwapFest , > "amradio at mailman.qth.net" , CarolinaHamSwap > yahoo com > Subject: [AMRadio] HF Antenna Tuner and HF related antenna items FS > Message-ID: <54C3BDD8.4020109 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > HF Antenna Tuner and HF Antenna related items For Sale: > > > Murch UT-2000, 2 KW HF Antenna Tuner: > > The Murch tuner followed the "Ultimate Transmatch" design > that appeared for many, many years in the ARRL Handbook. > It was considered to be the absolute top of the line HF tuner. > > It is rated at 2000 watts, 80 thru 10 meters. Once one looks > at the inside, it is easy to see why. The roller inductor is > HUGE. So is the spacing on the capacitors. This is a very > rugged tuner. > > The front panel says this is a UT-2000. The plain UT-2000 > was primarily sold without a meter. This one has a meter with > switch for "Off-Fwd-Ref". I think it was available with a meter > as an option. > > The case on Murch tuners originally had a really sick green > color. Like most, this one has been repainted and is now a black > hammertone that is in excellent shape. > > This one works fine, and looks exceptionally nice. > > Paper work for the A and B models is included for $150. > > > CDE Rotor Control Box for 8 wire rotors: > > This CDE Rotor control box will control any of the CDE/Telex/HyGain > 8 wire rotors. This is labeled for use with the Tailtwister, but > can be used with Ham M, Ham II, Ham II, or Ham IV, and others as > well. > > This one is in the black case, and is a CDE as opposed to the > Telex or HyGain. Most people consider the CDE higher quality. > This one has the LEDs showing direction of rotation and brake > release, in addition to the North centered meter. It has a > female 8 pin Jones connector on it. > > This one works fine and looks really great. > Paper work is included for $110. > > > Coaxial Antenna Switches: > > All work fine, look fine, and use SO-239 connectors. > > > Waters (B & W) Model 376 Protax Coax Switch: > > This five position switch permits all five antennas to be shorted > to ground. It does not short the input connector to ground. This > is the Waters "Protax" series, which grounds all unused antennas > (or all antennas if in the "ground" position. > > It accepts PL-259 connectors, with the coax going out like the > spokes of a wheel. There is also a mounting bracket if one would > want to wall mount it. > > This one works fine and looks extremely nice. > Paperwork is included for $40. > > > Two position "Strip Line" Coax Switch: > The MFJ 1702 C switch utilizes metal cavity construction for max > efficiency and high isolation. This two position coax switch has > a new center ground protection! Better than 60 dB isolation at > 300 MHz and better than 50 dB at 450MHz. 50 Ohm. The unused > terminal is automatically grounded for static and RF protection. > It has less than 0.2 dB insertion loss and SWR below 1.2:1. > Heavy cavity type construction and SO-239 connectors. > Mounting holes. It looks very close to new. > With paper work for $25. > > SCP Comm Switch SC-40-AS Coax Switch > Three position antenna switch in rectangular box. Connectors on > the back. In original box. May be new. $22 > > > Wattmeter / SWR Bridges: > > All have SO-239 connectors and work fine. > > Vanco SWR-2 SWR Bridge / Wattmeter > It covers from 1.7 to 150 MHz. It has a single meter, and > is actually a 10 W and 100 W full scale watt meter as well > as the "normal" SWR meter. It is still in its original box, > with original paper work, and appears to be new. $25. > > Lafayette 99-25835 SWR Bridge > This HF single meter SWR Bridge also functions as a field > strength meter. This one is also in its original box, with > original paper work and appears to be new. $20 > > Radio Shack 21-524 SWR and Power Meter > This HF meter measures both average and PEP power in 20/200/2000 > watt ranges as well as functioning as a regular SWR meter. > Looks close to new. With paperwork for $25. > > > High Sierra HS-1800 DX/B "Screwdriver" HF Mobile Antenna > > This HF mobile antenna package includes the HS-1800DX/B antenna, > the HS-201C/SS Stainless Steel powder coated mounting bracket, > the HS-110A/PC powder coated stainless steel whip, the MM-SSQD > powder coated stainless steel quick disconnect, and 60 feet of > control cable and coax in the same cable, plus radial package. > > This is all completely new, unused. A silent key purchased it > just before his death, and never unpacked it. It is still > sealed in the plastic bags. It cost him $570. > > Buy this package complete with original manual for only $400. > > > Quick Disconnects, Resonator Spring, Roof Rack Mount > > Quick Disconnects > Hustler QD-1, stainless steel, still sealed in package. $18 > Lakeview set of four top portions, and one lower portion, often > used with Hamsticks. Like new. $24 > > Hustler RSS-2, Stainless steel resonator spring > Appears to be unused. No blemishes. $10 > > Astatic "Mirror Mount" or "Roof Rack Mount" > Mounts to mirror or roof rack, and takes a PL-259 on one side, > and has a 3/8 inch 24 post for the mobile whip on the other. > Used for either HF or VHF/UHF antennas. > New, still sealed in the package. $12 > As above, unused, but out of package. $10 > > > Hustler "Double Talk" Phasing Harness: > > Back in the 1970's, Hustler sold a harness of coaxial cable that > they called a "Double Talk Harness". It was used to connect to two > mobile ball mounts, each of which would have an antenna for the > same band. In theory, they would be phased such that there was > about 3 db gain, but the reality is that they really shined by > reducing QSB, in effect acting as a sort of diversity system. > > This phasing harness looks fine and works fine. $17 > > > Other Hustler HF mobile items: > > Hustler RSS-2, Stainless steel resonator spring > Appears to be unused. No blemishes. $10 > > Hustler QD-1 Quick Disconnect, new, still sealed in package. $18 > > > Coaxial Cable with "N" Connectors: > > This cable has a male "N" connector on each end. > It is about 60 feet long. > > The coax is labeled 50-2 V. > > This piece is in extremely good condition, with heat > shrink around the connectors for strain relief. $35 > > > Coax connectors and adapters: > > Prices are per connector. Several of each are available. > Most are unused. > > SPECIAL: Buy 5 and take 10% off. > Buy 10 or more and take 20% off. > > UG-175 reducing adapters for PL-259 connectors to > use with RG-58 $.50 > > UG-176 reducing adapters for PL-259 connectors to > use with RG-8 X or RG-59. > Amphenol, still sealed in the package $1 > > Amphenol crimp type PL-259, sealed in package $3 > > UHF double female "Barrel connector" $3 > > UHF "Bulkhead Connector" with mounting hardware > Double female, about 2 inches long $6 > > UHF "T" connector with two female (SO-239) and one male > (PL-259) connection $5 > > BNC HT to PL-259 adapter.(BNC male to UHF female) $5 > > BNC male for coax cables > standard type $2 > crimp on type $3 > > Chassis mount BNC female > square mount (uses 4 screws) $3 > Amphenol screw in type, sealed in package $4 > > BNC "T", two female and one male $3 > > > Turnbuckles: > > I have two sets of turnbuckles. One is a set of three and are > larger. The other is a set of five. All of them appear to be > new, unused. > > The set of three has the turnbuckle itself about 6 1/2 inches > long, with each of the bolts having 3+ inches of thread, plus > the 1+ inch diameter eye. This set is $30. > > The second set consists of five turnbuckles, and is marked "5" > on it. Does this mean it is considered to be a 5 inch turnbuckle? > The actual body of it is 3 1/2 inches long, with 2 inches of > thread on each of the eye bolts, plus the 1 inch diameter eye. > This set is $25. > > Buy both sets for $50. > > > I also have many other accessories available such as many > different types of microphones, HTs, VHF and UHF rigs, HF > and VHF/UHF antennas, etc. > Just too many to list here. Please e-mail your requests. > > Prices do not include shipping from Florida. > > > Thanks. > > 73, > > Ken, W8EK > > Ken Simpson > E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net > Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 06:57:32 -0600 > From: john nelson > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [AMRadio] Amplifier > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Good Morning All, I am looking for an home brew amplifier and power supply > carrier around 100 watts will be using a viking ranger to excite it. Can > pickup 125 miles from Minneapolis. Don't care if not working as long as > iron is good. Cash or pay pal. 73 John W0XAZ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:15:58 -0600 > From: "Jim Liles" > To: > Subject: [AMRadio] Protocol to remove a stuck slug. > Message-ID: <2056E18D3BF149C6A94AA4FF97D71143 at LILESJLAPTOP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Curt, > > The coil is loose in the mount because someone tried to drill it out or > aggressively twisted it. These old slugs have become fragile over the > years > and often crack when you try to align the radio. There is no way to get > that thing out without destroying it. > > Here is a simple foolproof way to do it without doing any damage. > > Take a coping saw blade that will fit through the existing hole and break > the end off. Drill a hole in a dowel rod and epoxy the coping saw blade > into it with the rake of the teeth facing out so it will cut while pulling > it outward. Gently, with patience, cut a slice in the slug then do > another > without going completely through. Get your favorite vacuum nozzle and > gently probe the slug to see if it will collapse. If not, do a little > more. > This method is absolute --- it works every time without fail and I have > very > shaky hands. It has worked for me hundreds of times. > > We have also replaced the coils that have been torn loose from drilling or > aggressively twisting. I?m not a brain surgeon and don?t wish to be but > in > the Hal line of radios, you need someone from the Mayo clinic to direct > the > job. > > Good luck --- Kindest regards Jim K9AXN > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:41:58 -0500 > From: Larry Szendrei > To: Discussion of AM Radio , Glowbugs > , AWA Reflector > > Subject: [AMRadio] AWA AM QSO Party this weekend! > Message-ID: <54D3E3A6.7090603 at securespeed.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi, all. > > The Antique Wireless Association is having its AM QSO Party this weekend > from 2300Z Saturday Feb. 7th to 2300Z Sunday Feb 8th. This is a > laid-back event; the minimum required exchange is name and QTH (and, > presumably, callsign!), and you don't need to submit a log, just a brief > summary. Of course, longer conversations about gear, etc. are encouraged > and make it more fun. More details at: > > http://www.antiquewireless.org/awa-amplitude-modulation-qso-party.html > > I'll be operating from my Maine QTH as flagship station W2AN somewhere > between 1880 - 1900 KHz between 6PM and 9PM EST. Please drop by and say > hello. > > 73, > -Larry/NE1S > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ______________________________________________________________ > AMRadio mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMRadio Digest, Vol 133, Issue 1 > *************************************** --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From amradio at mailman.qth.net Thu Feb 5 19:47:24 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (John Macaulay via AMRadio) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:47:24 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Hanlon's antenna relay comments In-Reply-To: <1E4DCAC5F1E24B00BA47BB244C5F141B@slammer> References: <1E4DCAC5F1E24B00BA47BB244C5F141B@slammer> Message-ID: <4E3737AA-BFB6-4DBD-B9B3-B15F73F1E8D4@yahoo.com> A decade plus ago I built a QSK system based on Jim's design that was published in Electric Radio magazine. It uses the WE relay mentions. I run an SB-200 and multiple coax fed verticals and dipoles without problems. It is a very solid relay and control system. Recommend it to anyone wanting to build an expandable and solid QSK system. 73 Mac MacAulay WQ8U Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Lloyd Smith DigiTek wrote: > > http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,88897.0.html > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:42 PM > Subject: AMRadio Digest, Vol 133, Issue 1 > > >> Send AMRadio mailing list submissions to >> amradio at mailman.qth.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> amradio-request at mailman.qth.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> amradio-owner at mailman.qth.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of AMRadio digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Antenna Relays (JAMES HANLON) >> 2. HF Antenna Tuner and HF related antenna items FS >> (Ken Simpson, W8EK) >> 3. Amplifier (john nelson) >> 4. Protocol to remove a stuck slug. (Jim Liles) >> 5. AWA AM QSO Party this weekend! (Larry Szendrei) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:28:02 -0700 >> From: JAMES HANLON >> To: AMradio >> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antenna Relays >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Steve, I like to operate QSK (break-in) CW and I use a relay to switch the 50 ohm antenna line coming from my transmatch and going to either my receiver or my transmitter. I use a Western Electric mercury wetted relay, they type housed in an octal-based tube casing about the size of a metal 6V6. You can find suitable relays on the Surplus Sales of Nebraska web site at https:// blu184.mail.live.com/?pages=compose . The 276G relay has one SPDT contact and a 700 ohm coil that they rate for 12 to 24 vdc. It sells for $10. Actually the contacts are a little more complicated than just the normal SPDT switch. Each stationary contact, on both the normally closed side and the normally open side, has two electrodes mechanically and electrically separated from one another. The "swinger" contact has a bar which makes contact with both of the stationary contacts and shorts them together. They were made this way, I think, to perform a logic function in the old, electromechanical te >> lephone exchanges. But you can just wire the two normally-open contacts together and the two normally-closed contacts together and treat them like a standard SPDT relay. The DC rating for the 276 relay contacts is 5 amps maximum. I have a time-sequenced keying circuit so that I don't turn on the transmitter until after the antenna relay has completed its switching cycle - I don't "hot switch" my antenna relay. Used in this service, my 276 relay holds the output of my Heathkit SB-200 amplifier, about 600 watts, into a nominal 50 ohm load. That works out to about 3.46 amps of RF current. 5 amps would work out to 1250 watts through the relay. The reasons why I use a mercury-wetted relay are as follows. They are "fast" as relays go, they operate and release in less than 1 millisecond. They have very low contact resistance, under 20 milliohms. They have absolutely no contact "bounce" like normal, dry contact relays have. Once the contacts close, they stay closed, once >> they open they stay open. Now that I think about it, the 276 type relay actually has a short period of time during the operating cycle when the NO contacts, the swinger, and the NC contacts are all bridged together. But this gives me no problem since I don't turn my transmitter on until after the antenna relay switching cycle is completed and I turn the transmitter off before I release the antenna relay. One caution, the mercury wetted relays must be operated reasonably close to vertical, upright, with the octal base down. If you turn them "upside down," the liquid mercury inside can flow down onto the contacts and the swinger and short them out. I have no noticeable problem with an "impedance bump" with this antenna relay through 10 meters. I operate it with both tube-type transmitters and with a Ten Tec Triton IV transceiver. If you'd be interested in further information on my QSK keyer, I can supply a copy of an article that I wrote about it for Electric Radio M >> agazine, October 1996, page 20. My keyer switches the antenna relay and generates separate, nested keying closures for the oscillator and amplifier stages of my transmitters. So the keying sequence when I press and release my key goes: 1-Antenna relay transfer from receiver to transmitter and receiver cutback, 2- Oscillator key closure, 3-Amplifier key closure, 4-Amplifier key opening, 5-Oscillator key opening, 6-Antenna relay transfer from transmitter to receiver and receiver recovery. This all happens fast enough so that I am able to listen to what's going on between dots and dashes to well over 30 wpm. I'm not enough of a CW speed demon to ever have pushed it to the point where it doesn't recover between characters. Hope this is interesting, Jim Hanlon, W8KGI >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:44:24 -0500 >> From: "Ken Simpson, W8EK" >> To: amateurradiomarketplace Yahoo >> , >> "amateurswap at yahoogroups.com" , >> AmatuerRadioSwapFest , >> "amradio at mailman.qth.net" , CarolinaHamSwap >> yahoo com >> Subject: [AMRadio] HF Antenna Tuner and HF related antenna items FS >> Message-ID: <54C3BDD8.4020109 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> >> HF Antenna Tuner and HF Antenna related items For Sale: >> >> >> Murch UT-2000, 2 KW HF Antenna Tuner: >> >> The Murch tuner followed the "Ultimate Transmatch" design >> that appeared for many, many years in the ARRL Handbook. >> It was considered to be the absolute top of the line HF tuner. >> >> It is rated at 2000 watts, 80 thru 10 meters. Once one looks >> at the inside, it is easy to see why. The roller inductor is >> HUGE. So is the spacing on the capacitors. This is a very >> rugged tuner. >> >> The front panel says this is a UT-2000. The plain UT-2000 >> was primarily sold without a meter. This one has a meter with >> switch for "Off-Fwd-Ref". I think it was available with a meter >> as an option. >> >> The case on Murch tuners originally had a really sick green >> color. Like most, this one has been repainted and is now a black >> hammertone that is in excellent shape. >> >> This one works fine, and looks exceptionally nice. >> >> Paper work for the A and B models is included for $150. >> >> >> CDE Rotor Control Box for 8 wire rotors: >> >> This CDE Rotor control box will control any of the CDE/Telex/HyGain >> 8 wire rotors. This is labeled for use with the Tailtwister, but >> can be used with Ham M, Ham II, Ham II, or Ham IV, and others as >> well. >> >> This one is in the black case, and is a CDE as opposed to the >> Telex or HyGain. Most people consider the CDE higher quality. >> This one has the LEDs showing direction of rotation and brake >> release, in addition to the North centered meter. It has a >> female 8 pin Jones connector on it. >> >> This one works fine and looks really great. >> Paper work is included for $110. >> >> >> Coaxial Antenna Switches: >> >> All work fine, look fine, and use SO-239 connectors. >> >> >> Waters (B & W) Model 376 Protax Coax Switch: >> >> This five position switch permits all five antennas to be shorted >> to ground. It does not short the input connector to ground. This >> is the Waters "Protax" series, which grounds all unused antennas >> (or all antennas if in the "ground" position. >> >> It accepts PL-259 connectors, with the coax going out like the >> spokes of a wheel. There is also a mounting bracket if one would >> want to wall mount it. >> >> This one works fine and looks extremely nice. >> Paperwork is included for $40. >> >> >> Two position "Strip Line" Coax Switch: >> The MFJ 1702 C switch utilizes metal cavity construction for max >> efficiency and high isolation. This two position coax switch has >> a new center ground protection! Better than 60 dB isolation at >> 300 MHz and better than 50 dB at 450MHz. 50 Ohm. The unused >> terminal is automatically grounded for static and RF protection. >> It has less than 0.2 dB insertion loss and SWR below 1.2:1. >> Heavy cavity type construction and SO-239 connectors. >> Mounting holes. It looks very close to new. >> With paper work for $25. >> >> SCP Comm Switch SC-40-AS Coax Switch >> Three position antenna switch in rectangular box. Connectors on >> the back. In original box. May be new. $22 >> >> >> Wattmeter / SWR Bridges: >> >> All have SO-239 connectors and work fine. >> >> Vanco SWR-2 SWR Bridge / Wattmeter >> It covers from 1.7 to 150 MHz. It has a single meter, and >> is actually a 10 W and 100 W full scale watt meter as well >> as the "normal" SWR meter. It is still in its original box, >> with original paper work, and appears to be new. $25. >> >> Lafayette 99-25835 SWR Bridge >> This HF single meter SWR Bridge also functions as a field >> strength meter. This one is also in its original box, with >> original paper work and appears to be new. $20 >> >> Radio Shack 21-524 SWR and Power Meter >> This HF meter measures both average and PEP power in 20/200/2000 >> watt ranges as well as functioning as a regular SWR meter. >> Looks close to new. With paperwork for $25. >> >> >> High Sierra HS-1800 DX/B "Screwdriver" HF Mobile Antenna >> >> This HF mobile antenna package includes the HS-1800DX/B antenna, >> the HS-201C/SS Stainless Steel powder coated mounting bracket, >> the HS-110A/PC powder coated stainless steel whip, the MM-SSQD >> powder coated stainless steel quick disconnect, and 60 feet of >> control cable and coax in the same cable, plus radial package. >> >> This is all completely new, unused. A silent key purchased it >> just before his death, and never unpacked it. It is still >> sealed in the plastic bags. It cost him $570. >> >> Buy this package complete with original manual for only $400. >> >> >> Quick Disconnects, Resonator Spring, Roof Rack Mount >> >> Quick Disconnects >> Hustler QD-1, stainless steel, still sealed in package. $18 >> Lakeview set of four top portions, and one lower portion, often >> used with Hamsticks. Like new. $24 >> >> Hustler RSS-2, Stainless steel resonator spring >> Appears to be unused. No blemishes. $10 >> >> Astatic "Mirror Mount" or "Roof Rack Mount" >> Mounts to mirror or roof rack, and takes a PL-259 on one side, >> and has a 3/8 inch 24 post for the mobile whip on the other. >> Used for either HF or VHF/UHF antennas. >> New, still sealed in the package. $12 >> As above, unused, but out of package. $10 >> >> >> Hustler "Double Talk" Phasing Harness: >> >> Back in the 1970's, Hustler sold a harness of coaxial cable that >> they called a "Double Talk Harness". It was used to connect to two >> mobile ball mounts, each of which would have an antenna for the >> same band. In theory, they would be phased such that there was >> about 3 db gain, but the reality is that they really shined by >> reducing QSB, in effect acting as a sort of diversity system. >> >> This phasing harness looks fine and works fine. $17 >> >> >> Other Hustler HF mobile items: >> >> Hustler RSS-2, Stainless steel resonator spring >> Appears to be unused. No blemishes. $10 >> >> Hustler QD-1 Quick Disconnect, new, still sealed in package. $18 >> >> >> Coaxial Cable with "N" Connectors: >> >> This cable has a male "N" connector on each end. >> It is about 60 feet long. >> >> The coax is labeled 50-2 V. >> >> This piece is in extremely good condition, with heat >> shrink around the connectors for strain relief. $35 >> >> >> Coax connectors and adapters: >> >> Prices are per connector. Several of each are available. >> Most are unused. >> >> SPECIAL: Buy 5 and take 10% off. >> Buy 10 or more and take 20% off. >> >> UG-175 reducing adapters for PL-259 connectors to >> use with RG-58 $.50 >> >> UG-176 reducing adapters for PL-259 connectors to >> use with RG-8 X or RG-59. >> Amphenol, still sealed in the package $1 >> >> Amphenol crimp type PL-259, sealed in package $3 >> >> UHF double female "Barrel connector" $3 >> >> UHF "Bulkhead Connector" with mounting hardware >> Double female, about 2 inches long $6 >> >> UHF "T" connector with two female (SO-239) and one male >> (PL-259) connection $5 >> >> BNC HT to PL-259 adapter.(BNC male to UHF female) $5 >> >> BNC male for coax cables >> standard type $2 >> crimp on type $3 >> >> Chassis mount BNC female >> square mount (uses 4 screws) $3 >> Amphenol screw in type, sealed in package $4 >> >> BNC "T", two female and one male $3 >> >> >> Turnbuckles: >> >> I have two sets of turnbuckles. One is a set of three and are >> larger. The other is a set of five. All of them appear to be >> new, unused. >> >> The set of three has the turnbuckle itself about 6 1/2 inches >> long, with each of the bolts having 3+ inches of thread, plus >> the 1+ inch diameter eye. This set is $30. >> >> The second set consists of five turnbuckles, and is marked "5" >> on it. Does this mean it is considered to be a 5 inch turnbuckle? >> The actual body of it is 3 1/2 inches long, with 2 inches of >> thread on each of the eye bolts, plus the 1 inch diameter eye. >> This set is $25. >> >> Buy both sets for $50. >> >> >> I also have many other accessories available such as many >> different types of microphones, HTs, VHF and UHF rigs, HF >> and VHF/UHF antennas, etc. >> Just too many to list here. Please e-mail your requests. >> >> Prices do not include shipping from Florida. >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> 73, >> >> Ken, W8EK >> >> Ken Simpson >> E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net >> Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 06:57:32 -0600 >> From: john nelson >> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [AMRadio] Amplifier >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Good Morning All, I am looking for an home brew amplifier and power supply >> carrier around 100 watts will be using a viking ranger to excite it. Can >> pickup 125 miles from Minneapolis. Don't care if not working as long as >> iron is good. Cash or pay pal. 73 John W0XAZ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:15:58 -0600 >> From: "Jim Liles" >> To: >> Subject: [AMRadio] Protocol to remove a stuck slug. >> Message-ID: <2056E18D3BF149C6A94AA4FF97D71143 at LILESJLAPTOP> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi Curt, >> >> The coil is loose in the mount because someone tried to drill it out or >> aggressively twisted it. These old slugs have become fragile over the years >> and often crack when you try to align the radio. There is no way to get >> that thing out without destroying it. >> >> Here is a simple foolproof way to do it without doing any damage. >> >> Take a coping saw blade that will fit through the existing hole and break >> the end off. Drill a hole in a dowel rod and epoxy the coping saw blade >> into it with the rake of the teeth facing out so it will cut while pulling >> it outward. Gently, with patience, cut a slice in the slug then do another >> without going completely through. Get your favorite vacuum nozzle and >> gently probe the slug to see if it will collapse. If not, do a little more. >> This method is absolute --- it works every time without fail and I have very >> shaky hands. It has worked for me hundreds of times. >> >> We have also replaced the coils that have been torn loose from drilling or >> aggressively twisting. I?m not a brain surgeon and don?t wish to be but in >> the Hal line of radios, you need someone from the Mayo clinic to direct the >> job. >> >> Good luck --- Kindest regards Jim K9AXN >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:41:58 -0500 >> From: Larry Szendrei >> To: Discussion of AM Radio , Glowbugs >> , AWA Reflector >> >> Subject: [AMRadio] AWA AM QSO Party this weekend! >> Message-ID: <54D3E3A6.7090603 at securespeed.us> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Hi, all. >> >> The Antique Wireless Association is having its AM QSO Party this weekend >> from 2300Z Saturday Feb. 7th to 2300Z Sunday Feb 8th. This is a >> laid-back event; the minimum required exchange is name and QTH (and, >> presumably, callsign!), and you don't need to submit a log, just a brief >> summary. Of course, longer conversations about gear, etc. are encouraged >> and make it more fun. More details at: >> >> http://www.antiquewireless.org/awa-amplitude-modulation-qso-party.html >> >> I'll be operating from my Maine QTH as flagship station W2AN somewhere >> between 1880 - 1900 KHz between 6PM and 9PM EST. Please drop by and say >> hello. >> >> 73, >> -Larry/NE1S >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> AMRadio mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html >> Post: mailto:AMRadio at mailman.qth.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of AMRadio Digest, Vol 133, Issue 1 >> *************************************** > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 06:02:21 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:02:21 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] Gates 250GY free for PU Message-ID: Word comes that a Gates 250GY is free for taking contact jimofferdahl at gmail.com Jim Offerdahl Offerdahl Broadcast Service, Inc. 218.358.0208 Jim reports the station owner will scrap it (and two other rigs) by end of the week if no one takes them away Any hams in MN or WI pse forward to other ops you know Here's the noitice: Gates BC250GY on 1480 CSI-T5-A on 1480 Harris FM10K on 96.7 The Gates was a backup transmitter and was removed from service in working order. The CSI suffered a catastrophic failure of the high voltage choke and was removed from service without repairs. The Harris was removed from service in working order. All boxes are located at Fosston, MN and the owner will entertain any reasonable offers. Location: Fosston, MN Contact: Jim Offerdahl 218-358-0208 jimofferdahl at gmail.com 2/2/15 It would be real sad if a 250GY wound up in a landfill Rob K5UJ From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 06:03:25 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:03:25 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] BC1-G in Oregon Message-ID: FREE to a good ham. Location: Burns, OR Contact: Ashley Newton 541-589-1513 lincnickerson at gmail.com 1/13/15 73 Rob K5UJ From k4kyv at charter.net Sat Feb 7 02:46:00 2015 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 02:46:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 133, Issue 2 Message-ID: <59f96dcf.197c54.14b6300a1cc.Webtop.47@charter.net> What is the point of regurgitating the entire digest in a new post, without adding anything new? From pete at zilliox.net Sat Feb 7 12:05:16 2015 From: pete at zilliox.net (pete zilliox) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:05:16 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] WTD: Vac Var Caps for QRO AM Message-ID: I live on a beach lot and I have a very compromised short antenna. So, I'm building an antenna tuner to handle the demands of a QRO AM transmitter. So far, I've acquired a proper ceramic switch, a huge Gates Roller inductor, and three massive all metal turns counters, but I'm still missing the capacitors. I'm looking for 15KV rated vacuum variable capacitors. Any for sale? Thanks, Pete - K5PZ Huntington Beach, CA k5pz at arrl dot net From amradio at mailman.qth.net Sat Feb 7 17:59:23 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (Bill Guyger via AMRadio) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 22:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] WTD: Vac Var Caps for QRO AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1703174951.2587880.1423349963308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> What value Pete? How many pf? From: pete zilliox To: AM Radio Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: [AMRadio] WTD: Vac Var Caps for QRO AM I live on a beach lot and I have a very compromised short antenna. So, I'm building an antenna tuner to handle the demands of a QRO AM transmitter. So far, I've acquired a proper ceramic switch, a huge Gates Roller inductor, and three massive all metal turns counters, but I'm still missing the capacitors.? I'm looking for 15KV rated vacuum variable capacitors. Any for sale? Thanks, Pete - K5PZ Huntington Beach, CA k5pz at arrl dot net ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From ne1s at securespeed.us Fri Feb 13 05:56:48 2015 From: ne1s at securespeed.us (Larry Szendrei) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 05:56:48 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Fwd: [AWA] RadioWorld - AWA Saves a Piece of Delano Station by James O'Neal, K4XAR In-Reply-To: <724325706.4725331.1423787048809.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <724325706.4725331.1423787048809.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <54DDD870.7090104@securespeed.us> I'm forwarding a post by John Dilks, K2TQN from the Antique Wireless Association list, 'cuz I thought a significant number here would be interested. 73, -Larry/NE1S -------- Forwarded Message -------- Big, I mean really BIG, article in the February 11, 2015 RadioWorld Magazine. You won't want to miss this story about the 250kW Collins transmitter which was saved from the scrap yard by the combined efforts of the AWA (Antique Radio Association - http://www.antiquewireless.org/ ) and the Collins CCA (Collins Collector Association - http://www.collinsradio.com/ ) Online version - http://www.radioworld.com/article/awa-saves-a-piece-of-delano-station/274511 This transmitter was rescued from the 'Voice of America Delano California Shortwave Station' with the rescue crew given only about one week to remove it. A massive undertaking. It will be on display in the new AWA Museum located in Bloomfield, NY. You can help fund and be a part of this project by joining the Collins CCA, by joining the AWA, or... Please consider a donation, no matter the size, to support our efforts. Click on https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/awa-museum-voice-of-america-250-kw-station-display 73, John Dilks, K2TQN www.k2tqn.com/ Former Editor Vintage Radio Column, QST 2000-2014 Having fun smelling hot rosin and solder again __._,_.___ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: oldradio at comcast.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (1) Questions or comments on any subject relating to radio history, radio collecting, buying and selling of radios or radio parts, radio collector clubs and radio collector events are welcome. Other than it's name, this email reflector has no direct connection to, nor is it controlled by the Antique Wireless Association. It is owned and managed by Ron Lawrence W4ROn as a service to the antique radio collecting community. Visit the AWA web page at: http://www.antiquewireless.org Visit the AWA annual conference web page at" http://www.awamuseum.org/ To Post message: antiquewirelessassociation at yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe send a blank message to: antiquewirelessassociation-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From w4wsz at embarqmail.com Sat Feb 14 14:57:51 2015 From: w4wsz at embarqmail.com (Bob) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:57:51 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] E Nec Antenna Software Message-ID: <000001d04890$840428e0$8c0c7aa0$@embarqmail.com> Good Afternoon.....Is there anyone in our group using E Nec ? If there is, and you have the time would you model an antenna for me. Details will follow if there is a reply. Thanks, Bob --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 18:46:13 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:46:13 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] E Nec Antenna Software In-Reply-To: <000001d04890$840428e0$8c0c7aa0$@embarqmail.com> References: <000001d04890$840428e0$8c0c7aa0$@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I tried that thing, or something similar that came with an ARRL handbook around 10 years ago and it seemed like a massive time suck. I spent hours trying to model a dipole. It became obvious that getting it to do anything halfway in the real world would take a few hours every day for several weeks so I blew it off and went back to being ignorant. However, the same handbook came with something called TLW that modeled feedlines and matching networks and that was easy to use and helpful. 73 Rob K5UJ On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Bob wrote: > Good Afternoon.....Is there anyone in our group using E Nec ? If there is, > and you have the time would you model an antenna for me. Details will > follow if there is a reply. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob > From kenw8ek at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 16:16:17 2015 From: kenw8ek at gmail.com (Ken Simpson, W8EK) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:16:17 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Microphones FS Message-ID: <54E25E21.30102@gmail.com> Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, DTMF Touch Tone, Speaker Microphones, etc. For Sale: Icom Microphones: Icom HM-14 DTMF Touch Tone Microphone: The Icom HM-14 has the standard round 8 pin connector as used by most Icom radios. It has a 16 digit DTMF Touch Tone pad on the back. It will work with the IC-25A, 28, 38, 45, 48, 77, 78, 120, 229, 271, 275, 290, 375, 451, 471, 475, 505, 575, 707, 718, 725, 728, 729, 735, 736, 737, 745, 746, 751, 756/PRO, 761, 765, 775, 781, 820H, 821H, 900, 901, 970, 1201, 1271, 1275, 2400, 3200, 3210, and probably others. It can be used to add a DTMF microphone to a rig that does not normally have one. This one has good audio quality, all 16 digits on the DTMF pad work like they should, and the coiled cord is in extremely good shape. $40 Icom HM-36 Hand Microphone: The Icom HM-36 is used on most of the Icom HF rigs. It has a round 8 pin plug, making it compatible with almost any of the Icom rigs with this connector. This includes the IC-746 and 756 series, IC-718, IC-7600, IC-7200, IC-775, plus many more, including VHF rigs like the IC-28, IC-229, IC-3200 and others. It also has up / down buttons on the top for changing the frequency. This one works 100% and looks like it is new. It likely was put in a drawer after receiving it with a rig, and never used. $35 Kenwood Microphones: Hand Microphone with round 8 pin plug for Kenwood, Alinco, etc. This hand mic works great on most Kenwood rigs with the round 8 pin connector, such as the TS-430, TS-440, TM-241, TM-2530, TW-4000, and others, including Alinco and ADI. It says "Electret Condenser Mic" on the back, and "Kenwood" on the front, with no model number. Basically, this mic functions like an MC-43, with a couple more features. It has the mic and PTT switch; it also has up/down switches on the top. There are four "extra" buttons labeled Call, VFO, MR, and PF. What these four buttons do depends on the rig. There is also a "Lock" switch on the back. Regardless if you use the four extra buttons or not, you still have a mic that works like an MC-43. This mic works fine, and looks like new. I am guessing it came with a rig, and was immediately put in the drawer, and never used. $30 Kenwood MC-48 DTMF Touch Tone Microphone Used on most Kenwood rigs with round 8 pin mic plug. Includes up/down switches as well as the 16 digit tone pad. Excellent, close to new, condition. $40 Yaesu Hand Microphones: Yaesu MH-15 DTMF Touch Tone Mic: The MH-15 c6 is a hand microphone that features a 16 digit DTMF Touch Tone Pad on the back, along with a lock/unlock switch. The top has up/down buttons. Of course the PTT is on the side. This one has the round 6 pin connector. It works fine and looks close to new. $40 Yaesu YM-17 hand mic: The YM-17 is a hand microphone with up/down switches on the top corner. It has the round 6 pin connector. This one works fine and looks really great. $30 Yaesu YM-31 hand mic: The Yaesu YM-31 is a hand mic with a round 6 pin connector. Apparently it is either similar or the same as the MH-25A6j (not the MH-25 with the 8 pin connector). It is a 600 ohm impedance hand microphone, and has a Monitor on-off switch on the back. It looks very similar to the Yaesu MH-1. This one works fine and looks extremely nice. $25 DTMF Touch Tone Microphones For Sale: Kenwood MC-48 DTMF Touch Tone Mic Used on most Kenwood rigs with round 8 pin mic plug. Includes up/down switches. Excellent condition. $40 Yaesu MH-15 DTMF Touch Tone Mic The MH-15 c6 is a hand microphone with a 16 digit DTMF Touch Tone Pad on the back, along with a lock/unlock switch. The top has up/down buttons. This one presently has the round 6 pin connector, which can be changed of course. It works fine and looks close to new. $40 CES 810 L DTMF Mic One can manually dial a number, or automatically store it in the mic, and "speed dial". It has a 12 digit touch tone pad on the front. With 8 pin modular plug (like computer LAN). It looks to be unused. $38 Johnson 250-0761-010 / CES 655 L DTMF Mic It has a 12 digit pad on the front, and is a rugged mic. Presently with 4 pin connector. It looks to be unused. $38 16 digit DTMF Touch Tone Pad: This is a standard 16 digit DTMF Touch Tone Pad that is made to be added to rigs (or microphones) that do not presently include one. It is about 2 inches square, with a three wire interface (Positive DC voltage in, audio output, and ground) for easy interfacing. There is a pot to adjust the output level. It appears that this unit is new. At least it has not been used. $20 Astatic Model 810-6 Gooseneck Microphone: This mic is on a 12 inch gooseneck. It is a brushed metal about 5 1/4 inches long, and is actually part of the gooseneck. The cable goes thru the gooseneck. It is a 2 conductor shielded cable, indicating a quality balanced microphone with low impedance. The gooseneck terminates in a standard 5/8 inch threaded connector. This one works fine and looks good. $40 HT Speaker Microphones: Both of these speaker mics have the 3.5 mm and 2.5 mm two conductor plugs that are spaced about 3/8 inch apart, and are molded into a single connector. They are used on Icom, Yaesu, Radio Shack, Maxon, Ritron, Vertex and many other radios. Premier SPM-100 It is a lightweight and compact unit, featuring a powerful speaker as well as a high-quality condenser-style microphone element that produces excellent transmitted audio clarity. The microphone may be secured to the user's lapel or shoulder. It also features a built-in 3.5mm jack for using an external earphone. $17 DM-100 Appears to be the same as the SPM-100 above, but just with a different label. $17 I also have many other accessories available such as many different types of microphones, HTs, HF, VHF and UHF rigs, HF and VHF/UHF antennas, etc. Just too many to list here. Please e-mail your requests. Prices do not include shipping from Florida. Thanks. 73, Ken, W8EK Ken Simpson E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 From paul at paulbaldock.com Tue Feb 17 13:56:06 2015 From: paul at paulbaldock.com (Paul Baldock) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:56:06 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] Biasing a Class C modulated final In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am building a 2x813 class C final modulated by 2x813. The typical way to bias the class C final is with a combination of fixed bias applied to the control grid and bias derived from the rf drive through a grid resistor. Rather than fixed bias applied to the grid it seems that I could achieve the same effect by using a pseudo zener in series with the cathode, similar to what is used in cathode driven linears. Any thoughts on this approach? - Paul KW7Y --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From ne1s at securespeed.us Wed Feb 18 06:53:38 2015 From: ne1s at securespeed.us (Larry Szendrei) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:53:38 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Biasing a Class C modulated final In-Reply-To: <20150217185652.E6AFE149A825@mailman.qth.net> References: <20150217185652.E6AFE149A825@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <54E47D42.8010809@securespeed.us> On 2/17/15 1:56 PM, Paul Baldock wrote: > I am building a 2x813 class C final modulated by 2x813. > > The typical way to bias the class C final is with a combination of > fixed bias applied to the control grid and bias derived from the rf > drive through a grid resistor. > > Rather than fixed bias applied to the grid it seems that I could > achieve the same effect by using a pseudo zener in series with the > cathode, similar to what is used in cathode driven linears. > > Any thoughts on this approach? > I see no reason why this wouldn't work, although the effective plate voltage, which is the plate-cathode voltage, will be reduced (plate supply voltage - cathode bias voltage). Strap each 813 filament connection to chassis right at the tube socket with a 0.01mf disc ceramic or better. Also, of course, the Zener needs to be able to handle the peak current under modulation. What's a pseudo-Zener, and why not bias the grids conventionally? 73, -Larry/NE1S From paul at paulbaldock.com Wed Feb 18 09:39:18 2015 From: paul at paulbaldock.com (Paul Baldock) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:39:18 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] Biasing a Class C modulated final In-Reply-To: <54E47D42.8010809@securespeed.us> References: <20150217185652.E6AFE149A825@mailman.qth.net> <54E47D42.8010809@securespeed.us> Message-ID: At 03:53 AM 2/18/2015, Larry Szendrei wrote: >What's a pseudo-Zener, My name for a solid state shunt regulator >and why not bias the grids conventionally? My thought was to eliminate an additional transformer. However I had not considered that the zener approach would reduce my screen voltage, so I've decided to go with the conventional bias supply approach. - Paul --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com Wed Feb 18 12:03:38 2015 From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:03:38 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Biasing a Class C modulated final In-Reply-To: <9D.C5.18663.3B2F3E45@mx03.agate.dfw.synacor.com> References: <20150217185654.E8E70149AC95@mailman.qth.net> <08B183C6DD3A4650A86F24AFDFFA95FE@berniePC> <9D.C5.18663.3B2F3E45@mx03.agate.dfw.synacor.com> Message-ID: Hi Paul: I assume you are using the 813s in parallel, if so they will not like going above 20 meters. I strongly suggest Eimac's " care and feeding of power grid tubes" they recommend and I agree that one side of the filament should be grounded directly to a common point, all bypass caps go to the same point. do not use .01 caps for bypass of the filaments it can cause a resonate circuit with the filaments of tubes with long leads or filaments, instead use nothing larger that .002 or so. I also like placing a 100 OHM non inductive resister in each screen and control grid lead, bypassing the end away from the tubes screen with another .002 back to the common ground. the grid leak resistor is attached to the two 100 Ohm resistors and bypassed with the .002 cap at the downstream end. do not use a choke at the grid circuit. the grid leak also serves as a base line load and makes the amp less sensitive as do the resistors in the screen circuit. 813s are very easy to drive and like to take off on their own. it is a lot easier to do all this first and not have to go back in and root around. The same with provisions for neutralizing, I can hear people now saying you don't neutralize tetrodes! well show me a pair of 813s that show a slight peak in grid current at the exact point of the plate current dip!! Use shielded wire for fil, screen, and bias leads. now this is a little extreme but next time I am going to run the fil, screen, and bias in separate small dia copper tube grounded only at the common point. and in addition to the .002 I would use a 100 to 250 MMF Mica in parallel Also strongly suggest a vacuum variable for the plate tuning cap. It took me a long time to realize that no matter what you do the circuits have multiple resonations the .002 cap has an internal resonance depending on lead length etc. The screen grid, control grid and filament basically form a triode. The plate leads of parallel tubes along with the grid leads form a push pull circuit at some frequency, and on and on. The National R175 make a good plate choke for shunt fed circuits. does not go to 160. Don't push the poor 813s, 2500 is a little high for them but should work, just don't run at more that 800 watts input. a bit over 300 MA. The plate resistance would be about 4000 Ohms and with about 30 MMF of output capacitance you are just about the limit for a reasonable tank Q on 20 meters. Use air on them and heat radiating plate caps and they probably would last your life time. Too much air is indicated when you blow them out of their sockets or can not hear the receiver!!! I love 813s they are my favorite tube along with 304TLs, obviously I am an old Goat. if I insisted on 20 through 10 meters I would go with 4-250As in push pull. I only have a pair of 833s in operation at this time but a mess of 813s and 304TLs in boxes plus the 4-250s and for the QRP amp 4-1000s.! None for sale untill I croak. I hope you did not fall asleap reading this! Bernie W8RPW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Baldock" To: "Bernie Doran" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Biasing a Class C modulated final > At 01:35 PM 2/17/2015, Bernie Doran wrote: >> if you do have a seperate screen supply use a choke in series and they >> will self modulate the screens. > > That's the plan. > >> in the screens, you would need about ten H at 100 ma. what plate >> voltage are you going to use? > > Around 2500V > > - Paul > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > From paul at paulbaldock.com Wed Feb 18 12:19:30 2015 From: paul at paulbaldock.com (Paul Baldock) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:19:30 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] Biasing a Class C modulated final In-Reply-To: References: <20150217185654.E8E70149AC95@mailman.qth.net> <08B183C6DD3A4650A86F24AFDFFA95FE@berniePC> <9D.C5.18663.3B2F3E45@mx03.agate.dfw.synacor.com> Message-ID: At 09:03 AM 2/18/2015, Bernie Doran wrote: >Hi Paul: I assume you are using the 813s in parallel, if so they will not >like going above 20 meters. I already have a grid driven linear amplifier with a pair in parallel that easily runs 650W PEP on 10 meters. I drive this with my DX-60. No parasitic chokes or neutralization necessary. 700V on the screen and 2500V on the plates. >The plate >resistance would be about 4000 Ohms and with about 30 MMF of output >capacitance you are just about the limit for a reasonable tank Q on 20 >meters. An L-PI solves that problem. - Paul --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From w6zkh at att.net Fri Feb 20 16:35:31 2015 From: w6zkh at att.net (John Neeley) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:35:31 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info Message-ID: <1424468131.50366.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This old Valiant, which has probably been through many hands before me, has been modified dealing with the AUX fixed loading caps and nothing is original. Infact, all the AUX caps have been replaced by military type high voltage mica's of various sizes and values. I would like to return it to somewhat original, but know that "stacked 3 section cap" is surely not available anymore, so would go with single cap wiring. These caps are the 1200v SM caps in 300, 600, 900 and 1200pf values. Also the 4-350/500v SM caps (series/parallel) are missing. Where can I find a source for these caps? Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. John W6ZKH From w5jo at brightok.net Fri Feb 20 17:22:42 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:22:42 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info In-Reply-To: <1424468131.50366.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1424468131.50366.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <25BD561A6D8144A7A79B4DC5DD656AA4@JimPC> Maybe this link will work, it is for Just Radios and he has the 350 pf 500 V silver micas. He has the others but they are only 1KV. Maybe someone here will turn up with something, barring that people have been using doorknob caps rater for RF. I don't know where they are getting those but they are around and someone will know. http://www.justradios.com/orderform.html 73, Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- This old Valiant, which has probably been through many hands before me, has been modified dealing with the AUX fixed loading caps and nothing is original. Infact, all the AUX caps have been replaced by military type high voltage mica's of various sizes and values. I would like to return it to somewhat original, but know that "stacked 3 section cap" is surely not available anymore, so would go with single cap wiring. These caps are the 1200v SM caps in 300, 600, 900 and 1200pf values. Also the 4-350/500v SM caps (series/parallel) are missing. Where can I find a source for these caps? Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. John W6ZKH From rbethman at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 17:56:14 2015 From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:56:14 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info In-Reply-To: <25BD561A6D8144A7A79B4DC5DD656AA4@JimPC> References: <1424468131.50366.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <25BD561A6D8144A7A79B4DC5DD656AA4@JimPC> Message-ID: <54E7BB8E.4000408@comcast.net> John, Try: They have ceramic doorknobs. Regards, Bob - N0DGN > > -----Original Message----- > This old Valiant, which has probably been through many hands before > me, has been modified dealing with the AUX fixed loading caps and > nothing is original. Infact, all the AUX caps have been replaced by > military type high voltage mica's of various sizes and values. I > would like to return it to somewhat original, but know that "stacked 3 > section cap" is surely not available anymore, so would go with single > cap wiring. These caps are the 1200v SM caps in 300, 600, 900 and > 1200pf values. Also the 4-350/500v SM caps (series/parallel) are > missing. Where can I find a source for these caps? Any help and > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > John W6ZKH From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com Fri Feb 20 17:57:12 2015 From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (L L bahr ) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:57:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info In-Reply-To: <25BD561A6D8144A7A79B4DC5DD656AA4@JimPC> Message-ID: <489393896.21082535.1424473032343.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com> Make sure whatever you use can handle the CURRENT!!! Voltage is important, but so is CURRENT. I had some silver micas blow up in my Valiant a few years ago. Replacement single 1000 volt ones blew up when I put them in there. To handle the current I had to make up two banks of two in parallel and then hook these two banks in series. This method held in there and could handle the current. Lee, w0vt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Wilhite" To: amradio at mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 4:22:42 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info Maybe this link will work, it is for Just Radios and he has the 350 pf 500 V silver micas. He has the others but they are only 1KV. Maybe someone here will turn up with something, barring that people have been using doorknob caps rater for RF. I don't know where they are getting those but they are around and someone will know. http://www.justradios.com/orderform.html 73, Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- This old Valiant, which has probably been through many hands before me, has been modified dealing with the AUX fixed loading caps and nothing is original. Infact, all the AUX caps have been replaced by military type high voltage mica's of various sizes and values. I would like to return it to somewhat original, but know that "stacked 3 section cap" is surely not available anymore, so would go with single cap wiring. These caps are the 1200v SM caps in 300, 600, 900 and 1200pf values. Also the 4-350/500v SM caps (series/parallel) are missing. Where can I find a source for these caps? Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. John W6ZKH ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From collinsradio at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 19:05:58 2015 From: collinsradio at comcast.net (David Knepper) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:05:58 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info In-Reply-To: <54E7BB8E.4000408@comcast.net> References: <1424468131.50366.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><25BD561A6D8144A7A79B4DC5DD656AA4@JimPC> <54E7BB8E.4000408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <96758768E1174A7C928FBE778197C496@DavidPC> Let us know your needs and we can beat any price out there. David Knepper - W3CRA/W3ST Collins Radio Association www.collinsradio.us Join the CRA today -----Original Message----- From: rbethman Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 5:56 PM To: amradio at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Valiant fixed loading caps info John, Try: They have ceramic doorknobs. Regards, Bob - N0DGN > > -----Original Message----- > This old Valiant, which has probably been through many hands before > me, has been modified dealing with the AUX fixed loading caps and > nothing is original. Infact, all the AUX caps have been replaced by > military type high voltage mica's of various sizes and values. I > would like to return it to somewhat original, but know that "stacked 3 > section cap" is surely not available anymore, so would go with single > cap wiring. These caps are the 1200v SM caps in 300, 600, 900 and > 1200pf values. Also the 4-350/500v SM caps (series/parallel) are > missing. Where can I find a source for these caps? Any help and > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > John W6ZKH ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From amradio at mailman.qth.net Sat Feb 21 19:46:53 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (CL in NC via AMRadio) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:46:53 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee Message-ID: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Remember the Radio Shack Lifetime Guarantee on their vacuum tubes? When did they stop supporting that and did they publish a statement saying it was null and void? de W4MEC From w5jo at brightok.net Sat Feb 21 20:02:52 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:02:52 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am not sure but think, that at minimum, their Chapter 11 bankruptcy will negate all contracts. I had tubes in the early 2000s that were warranties by them but haven't seen anything since. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- Remember the Radio Shack Lifetime Guarantee on their vacuum tubes? When did they stop supporting that and did they publish a statement saying it was null and void? de W4MEC From paul at paulbaldock.com Sat Feb 21 20:21:17 2015 From: paul at paulbaldock.com (Paul Baldock) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:21:17 -0800 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend In-Reply-To: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.co m> References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is the AM Rally Weekend! There seems to be a distinct lack of interest (except for me and a few others). info at http://amfone.net/AMTR/AMTR-2015.html - Paul KW7Y --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From rbethman at comcast.net Sat Feb 21 20:33:28 2015 From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:33:28 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend In-Reply-To: <20150222012212.CA18F149A956@mailman.qth.net> References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20150222012212.CA18F149A956@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <54E931E8.5020104@comcast.net> Gee - I wonder if the 8" of snow and now freezing rain might have something to do with it. That at least applies to Virginia, Maryland, and surrounding areas. Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and a "few" other places. N0DGN On 2/21/2015 8:21 PM, Paul Baldock wrote: > This is the AM Rally Weekend! There seems to be a distinct lack of > interest (except for me and a few others). From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 21 21:51:58 2015 From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:51:58 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend In-Reply-To: <54E931E8.5020104@comcast.net> References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20150222012212.CA18F149A956@mailman.qth.net> <54E931E8.5020104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <54E9444E.6080000@sbcglobal.net> I'd think this would be a fine incentive: fire up your gear and help melt that snow and ice! If nothing else, keep the room warm! Kim N5OP On 2/21/2015 7:33 PM, rbethman wrote: > Gee - I wonder if the 8" of snow and now freezing rain might have > something to do with it. > > That at least applies to Virginia, Maryland, and surrounding areas. > > Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and a "few" other places. > > N0DGN > > > > > On 2/21/2015 8:21 PM, Paul Baldock wrote: >> This is the AM Rally Weekend! There seems to be a distinct lack of >> interest (except for me and a few others). > > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, PP SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL) /"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." //? Attributed to many people; it?s so true that it doesn?t matter who said it./ From manualman at juno.com Sat Feb 21 21:59:31 2015 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:59:31 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend Message-ID: Applies to NJ and NY too. Was down playing CW on 80 meters in the DX contest for awhile; came up to make some rally contacts but got bored waiting to make a point or two. I'm not sure anyone I heard on AM was really in the rally so I went back down on CW to play some more. Lots more fun. Maybe I'll try AM on 10 and 15 meters Sunday morning. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:33:28 -0500 rbethman writes: > Gee - I wonder if the 8" of snow and now freezing rain might have > something to do with it. > > That at least applies to Virginia, Maryland, and surrounding areas. > > Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and a "few" other > places. > > N0DGN > > > > > On 2/21/2015 8:21 PM, Paul Baldock wrote: > > This is the AM Rally Weekend! There seems to be a distinct lack of > > > interest (except for me and a few others). From rbethman at comcast.net Sat Feb 21 22:07:19 2015 From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:07:19 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend In-Reply-To: <54E9444E.6080000@sbcglobal.net> References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20150222012212.CA18F149A956@mailman.qth.net> <54E931E8.5020104@comcast.net> <54E9444E.6080000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <54E947E7.6040609@comcast.net> It would be, except that I am finally warming up and drying out! It was only supposed to be 1 to 3". Ended up being over 6". I had to make sure the driveway and sidewalk are fully cleared so the XYL can get back in in the AM. She works at a medical facility, and is pulling a double shift. Sometimes one's selection of priorities gets adjusted by the situation. Regards, Bob - N0DGN On 2/21/2015 9:51 PM, Kim Elmore wrote: > I'd think this would be a fine incentive: fire up your gear and help > melt that snow and ice! If nothing else, keep the room warm! > > Kim N5OP > > On 2/21/2015 7:33 PM, rbethman wrote: >> Gee - I wonder if the 8" of snow and now freezing rain might have >> something to do with it. >> >> That at least applies to Virginia, Maryland, and surrounding areas. >> >> Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and a "few" other places. >> >> N0DGN From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 22:20:22 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:20:22 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) that the store employees would take down tube type, customer information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came in to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but yes, they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a tube from some other vendor. Now, that was a few years ago. Don't know about now. 73 Rob K5UJ From w5jo at brightok.net Sat Feb 21 22:42:08 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:42:08 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There was a lot of CW on 10 and 15 earlier today, is that the deal Pete? Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- Applies to NJ and NY too. Was down playing CW on 80 meters in the DX contest for awhile; came up to make some rally contacts but got bored waiting to make a point or two. Pete, wa2cwa From amradio at mailman.qth.net Sun Feb 22 00:01:56 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (Bill Guyger via AMRadio) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 23:01:56 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. Bill AD5OL Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if > they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) > that the store employees would take down tube type, customer > information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came in > to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but yes, > they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a tube from > some other vendor. Now, that was a few years ago. Don't know about > now. > > 73 > > Rob > K5UJ > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From manualman at juno.com Sun Feb 22 01:40:20 2015 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 01:40:20 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] AM Rally Weekend Message-ID: ARRL International DX CW contest is this weekend. 10, 15, and 20 meters during the day were jam packed with CW signals. I expect the same on Sunday. The phone piece is March 7-8. It's always fun working DX contest stations when you're on AM. Some get it; others think your rig isn't working correctly. http://www.arrl.org/arrl-dx Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:42:08 -0600 "Jim Wilhite" writes: > There was a lot of CW on 10 and 15 earlier today, is that the deal > Pete? > > Jim > W5JO > > -----Original Message----- > > Applies to NJ and NY too. > Was down playing CW on 80 meters in the DX contest for awhile; came > up to > make some rally contacts but got bored waiting to make a point or > two. > Pete, wa2cwa From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 06:31:23 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 05:31:23 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At least you still have a radio shack and it's open. Rob K5UJ On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Bill Guyger wrote: > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. From n5yey at live.com Sun Feb 22 09:40:30 2015 From: n5yey at live.com (mark depaepe) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 08:40:30 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Radio Shack. You have questions, we have blank stares! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Bill Guyger via AMRadio wrote: > > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. > > Bill AD5OL > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: >> >> I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if >> they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) >> that the store employees would take down tube type, customer >> information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came in >> to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but yes, >> they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a tube from >> some other vendor. Now, that was a few years ago. Don't know about >> now. >> >> 73 >> >> Rob >> K5UJ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net >> AMRadio mailing list >> Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ >> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html >> List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >> Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net >> To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with >> the word unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From collinsradio at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 10:40:08 2015 From: collinsradio at comcast.net (David Knepper) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:40:08 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Radio Shack served us well for so many years and now I guess it is time to kick them in the teeth. This cynicism is becoming all too common these days. Just think of the many employees that will lose their jobs! Oh, well, typical of our culture and the social media to "bump your gums." Many of us should be like a dog who wags his tail and not his mouth! David Knepper - W3CRA/W3ST -----Original Message----- From: mark depaepe Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:40 AM To: Bill Guyger Cc: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee Radio Shack. You have questions, we have blank stares! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Bill Guyger via AMRadio > wrote: > > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee > response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. > > Bill AD5OL > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: >> >> I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if >> they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) >> that the store employees would take down tube type, customer >> information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came in >> to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but yes, >> they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a tube from >> some other vendor. Now, that was a few years ago. Don't know about >> now. >> >> 73 >> >> Rob >> K5UJ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net >> AMRadio mailing list >> Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ >> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html >> List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >> Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net >> To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with >> the word unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From mark.k3msb at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 11:01:36 2015 From: mark.k3msb at gmail.com (Mark K3MSB) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:01:36 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Why would you even expect anything different? Thr middle aged ones I've run into do in fact know what tubes are and they give me a big smile and we've had some nice conversations afterward. One our two were even ex hams. The young ones were born in an age after vacuum tubes left mainstream electronics and were probably never exposed to them. We live in the 21st century and enjoy playing with early to mid 20th century technology. We're a bunch of dinosaurs enjoying a nitch activity. I see nothing wrong with that. Mark K3MSB Sent from my Android phone On Feb 22, 2015 12:02 AM, "Bill Guyger via AMRadio" wrote: > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee > response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. > > Bill AD5OL > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > > I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if > > they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) > > that the store employees would take down tube type, customer > > information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came in > > to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but yes, > > they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a tube from > > some other vendor. Now, that was a few years ago. Don't know about > > now. > > > > 73 > > > > Rob > > K5UJ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > > AMRadio mailing list > > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From w5jo at brightok.net Sun Feb 22 11:12:07 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:12:07 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It is not just the company stores that are suffering. The franchise stores that have been successful will now have to negotiate contracts to supply what they need to stay in business. Around here they had a thriving AT&T business but AT&T built a built a store about 30 miles away and pulled the local contract. Radio Shack, Inc. provided an avenue to continue sales but only paid a one time fee rather than include the residuals. They have had a good business over the years and were doing well with the normal Radio Shack products that can be replaced but it will be a struggle. They have satellite installation for both Direct TV and Dish but it is not a constant thing. Last year they had 5 employees now only the two principals run the store. Suspecting what was going to happen they started selling major appliances in another building several months back, but given what has happened they will now consolidate into one building. Sad deal for local businesses. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- Just think of the many employees that will lose their jobs! From k6xyz at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 22 11:21:08 2015 From: k6xyz at sbcglobal.net (David Harmon) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:21:08 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: <1424566013.5238.YahooMailBasic@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01d04ebb$916ac990$b4405cb0$@sbcglobal.net> We might be dinosaurs but the reality is that RS cannot sell anything to their target market.... There is nothing there for us.....and apparently anyone else. You got questions....we got stares... 73 David Harmon K6XYZ Sperry, OK -----Original Message----- From: AMRadio [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark K3MSB Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:02 AM To: Bill Guyger Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee Why would you even expect anything different? Thr middle aged ones I've run into do in fact know what tubes are and they give me a big smile and we've had some nice conversations afterward. One our two were even ex hams. The young ones were born in an age after vacuum tubes left mainstream electronics and were probably never exposed to them. We live in the 21st century and enjoy playing with early to mid 20th century technology. We're a bunch of dinosaurs enjoying a nitch activity. I see nothing wrong with that. Mark K3MSB Sent from my Android phone On Feb 22, 2015 12:02 AM, "Bill Guyger via AMRadio" wrote: > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee > response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. > > Bill AD5OL > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > > I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if > > they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) > > that the store employees would take down tube type, customer > > information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came > > in to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but > > yes, they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a > > tube from some other vendor. Now, that was a few years ago. Don't > > know about now. > > > > 73 > > > > Rob > > K5UJ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list > > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net > > with the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From tchesek at epix.net Sun Feb 22 13:00:27 2015 From: tchesek at epix.net (tchesek) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:00:27 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee Message-ID: I'm sad to see Radio Shack in this condition. ?In the Harrisburg PA area we used to have Harrisburg Radio Lab, Electronic Wholesalers and Cumberland Electronics as major parts suppliers. ?Cumberland is the only one left and you are usually better off just ordering from a place like Mouser to get what you need. ?Radio Shack has managed to stay alive for a while. ?Many companies have essentially come and gone over the last century. ?Think of television and radio. ?Where are the RCA, Magnovox, Emerson, Zenith, Hallicrafters, Heathkit, Collins, and on and on. ?Business fills a niche for a while then something comes along to take it's place. ?Sometimes there is too much competition that knocks out a business. ?Think Sears, Kmart, JC Penney, Montgomery Wards etc. ?Look around to the malls in the country. ?Too many were built and the older ones disappear because people like "new" things. ? Tom K3TVC -------- Original message -------- From: David Harmon Date: 02/22/2015 11:21 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amradio at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee We might be dinosaurs but the reality is that RS cannot sell anything to their target market.... There is nothing there for us.....and apparently anyone else. You got questions....we got stares... 73 David Harmon K6XYZ Sperry, OK -----Original Message----- From: AMRadio [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark K3MSB Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:02 AM To: Bill Guyger Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee Why would you even expect anything different? Thr middle aged ones I've run into do in fact know what tubes are and they give me a big smile and we've had some nice conversations afterward.? One our two were even ex hams. The young ones were born in an age after vacuum tubes left mainstream electronics and? were probably never exposed to them. We live in the 21st century and enjoy playing with early to mid 20th century technology. We're a bunch of dinosaurs enjoying a nitch activity.? I see nothing wrong with that. Mark K3MSB Sent from my Android phone On Feb 22, 2015 12:02 AM, "Bill Guyger via AMRadio" wrote: > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee > response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. > > Bill AD5OL > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > > I have heard of guys going into RS with one of their tubes asking if > > they still honor the guarantee and they reported (to their surprise) > > that the store employees would take down tube type, customer > > information, and order a tube for them, then call them when it came > > in to come get it, or maybe they would ship it to their address, but > > yes, they were honoring the guarantee, even if they had to buy a > > tube from some other vendor.? Now, that was a few years ago.? Don't > > know about now. > > > > 73 > > > > Rob > > K5UJ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list > > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net > > with the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. 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This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kt4ae at bellsouth.net Sun Feb 22 13:57:05 2015 From: kt4ae at bellsouth.net (Harry Vaught, KT4AE) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:57:05 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Radio Shack Message-ID: <54EA2681.703@bellsouth.net> Radio Shack was always at the bottom of my list mainly since in my hi-fi days, stores like Lafayette sold name brands and RS had their own. When we got down to just RS, I bought components occasionally but as their selection dwindled, there was little there for the Hallicrafters guy and the connectors were overpriced compared to Mouser, AES and Amazon. I did stock up on relays, plugs and jacks when a local RS was closing and the components were down to 10%. I have to say though that when I lived in Maryville, Tennessee, the two stores there had at least some knowledgeable people. The manager of one store was a Dynaco collector and a clerk at the other had a lot of general electronics knowledge. More recently, I went to the one remaining store in Athens to get a different color LED for one I'd used to replace the pilot light in a tube preamp. The young man asked me the supply voltage, whipped out his calculator and was about to compute the size of dropping resistor I would need. I already had one in place so didn't need it but I was impressed. He may never have seen a vacuum tube but he at least knew Ohm's law. Harry, KT4AE Watkinsville, Georgia From kenw8ek at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 15:58:14 2015 From: kenw8ek at gmail.com (Ken Simpson, W8EK) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 15:58:14 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Power Supplies FS Message-ID: <54EA42E6.3050403@gmail.com> Power Supplies For Sale: Regulated 13 Volt DC power supplies: Icom PS-30 DeLuxe Power Supply: The Icom PS-30 power supply delivers 13.8 VDC at 25 amps. 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Still in box, unused. $12 Eico 751 AC power supply / Speaker: This power supply is used with tube type transceivers. It includes a speaker as well as the power supply in a very nice cabinet. It was designed to be used with the Eico 753 transceiver, but can be used with most any of the tube type rigs from the 1960's and 70's. The manual says it provides the following voltages: 750 V DC at 300 ma High Voltage 280 V DC at 170 ma Low Voltage -100 V DC at 5 ma for bias 12.6 V AC at 4 amps for filaments This supply comes from a silent key estate; I am sure it has not been used for years. I do not have a rig to test it, but would expect it to work fine, but the filter capacitors likely will need to be replaced, as is the case with any of the units of this vintage. With manual for $120. I also have many other accessories available such as many different types of microphones, HTs, VHF and UHF rigs, antennas, etc. Just too many things to list here. Please e-mail your requests. Prices do not include shipping from Florida. Thanks. 73, Ken, W8EK Ken Simpson E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 From amradio at mailman.qth.net Sun Feb 22 17:00:01 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (Bill Guyger via AMRadio) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <952153459.3984727.1424642401146.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> At the risk of being ungentlemanly, there is no need of a White Knight to come?riding to?Radio Shack's rescue lancing cynicism in the heart?or whipping for?dogs wagging their mouths. Radio Shack has for years been a place where you could get some basic parts?when you were in need. I can't tell you how many commercial radio stations?have been and are being kept on the air by parts from a?Radio Shack. I had to drive 5 hours?out to Big Spring, Texas to repair a mom and pop FM that had been off the air for a couple of days. I was able to get enough 1/2 W. resistors to parallel and series to make a?2 W. resistor of what value I forget, which coupled with 3' of #10 solid Copper wire from the local hardware / farm supply store that I used to wind a new coil for the PA?grid input circuit got the thing back on the air until the proper parts could be flown in overnight. I went into a store near downtown Dallas last week to get one of those triple RCA to RCA cables used in AV applications. The girl behind the counter had no idea of what I was talking about. Don't accuse me of being sexist either, the guys working there weren't any help either. I finally found the cables in another part of the store while they were busy pulling out XLR to 1/4" Phone Plug, Y cables, F cables and F splitters asking me if this was what I was talking about. It truly has become a "you've got questions, we've got a big bag of nothing". This is one reason?why Radio Shack is crashing. Management cut out unnecessary things like training trying to save a buck. Other reasons of course are competition, on line purchasing, etc. And truly, todays youth did not have the opportunity to grow up being able to tear into things and figure them out like we did. It has sadly become a?world where if it can't be seen on the GUI or found in a menu it can't be done, or you need to reboot, or change the Mother Board or the Hard Drive, or buy new software, or ................ Bill AD5OL ? From: David Knepper To: mark depaepe ; Bill Guyger Cc: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee Radio Shack served us well for so many years and now I guess it is time to kick them in the teeth. This cynicism is becoming all too common these days. Just think of? the many employees that will lose their jobs! Oh, well, typical of our culture and the social media to "bump your gums." Many of us should be like a dog who wags his tail and not his mouth! David Knepper - W3CRA/W3ST > On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Bill Guyger via AMRadio > wrote: > > Based on a trip to a Radio Shack in Dallas last week, the employee > response would most likely be "what's a tube"??????. > > Bill AD5OL > > Sent from my iPhone > From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 17:19:49 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:19:49 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] RS and tube guarantee In-Reply-To: <952153459.3984727.1424642401146.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <952153459.3984727.1424642401146.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Bill Guyger via AMRadio wrote: > It has sadly become a world where if it can't be seen on the GUI or found in a menu it can't be done, or you need to reboot, or change the Mother Board or >the Hard Drive, or buy new software, or ................ How is this Radio Shack's fault? Rob K5UJ From k4kyv at charter.net Mon Feb 23 15:18:14 2015 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:18:14 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 Message-ID: <001d01d04fa5$daa096e0$8fe1c4a0$@charter.net> A few years ago, thanks to the tireless efforts of many who lobbied and commented to the FCC regarding to the 75/80m frequency allocation, the FCC adopted the long overdue expansion of the phone band, and extended it down to 3600 kHz. Although many grumbled about the expansion, one of the reasons the FCC gave for approving the expansion was the underutilisation of the portion of the band from 3600 to 3700 kHz. Often that portion would be devoid of signals other that a handful of CW nets and a few RTTY and digital signals, while most of the CW activity was squeezed between 3525 and about 3580. CW operators complained about their "loss" of frequencies despite the fact that CW is allowed anywhere on the band between 3500 and 4000. As soon as the phone band was expanded, 3600-3700 was filled voice signals, including AM. Many of those ops commented on how great the expanded band was, with less QRM, congestion and nonsense than they were used to experiencing on the high end of the band. A number of AMers upgraded to Extra just so they could operate the new frequencies. Unfortunately, after only a few weeks, once the novelty wore off, most of those stations migrated back to their old frequencies, and now AM is rarely heard in this portion and SSB has greatly thinned out as well. Now, according to Dave Sumner's editorial in the March issue of QST, the ARRL is making noises about petitioning the FCC to withdraw part of the expansion and move the lower end of the phone band up to 3650, in order to allow more room for "digital" operations. One of the reasons given is the dearth of activity in 3600-3700, saying those frequencies are "underutilised". This is the same argument the FCC originally used when they expanded the phone band in the first place, bringing us back to the old principle of USE IT OR LOSE IT. Sumner points out in his editorial how the FCC regulations that govern amateur radio in the US are much more detailed than those of most other countries' administrations, citing specifically the division of the HF bands by mode. An interesting idea for alleviating the purported "problem", to allow some overlap between digital modes and phone on, say, 3600-3650 was rejected outright by the Committee because "it would be a significant philosophical departure from the existing HF regulatory regime". That reminds me of some of the ridiculous political gridlock in Congress, where practical solutions to some of the nation's most pressing problems are dismissed out of hand because it runs counter to someone's political "ideology". I was able to get greater details off the ARRL website. Here is the pertinent info; click on the link at the bottom to see the whole thing. We need to jump on this right away. HF Band Planning Committee ARRL Board of Directors July 2014 (. . .) 4. In accordance with Minute 47 of the January 2014 Board of Directors Meeting, the HF Band Planning Committee was directed to solicit membership input regarding concerns pertaining to the increasing popularity of data modes, and to suggest ways to use our spectrum efficiently so that these data modes may compatibly coexist with each other. The Committee has completed its initial task of soliciting member input, performed an initial review of the input, and will now analyze the input in greater detail by band to assess necessary band plan changes. There is a desire to reallocate the lower portion of 80 meters phone band (3600-3650 kHz). Several commenters observed that the FCC's action in 2006 to reduce the 80 meter RTTY/data band from 250 kHz to 100 kHz and to limit access to 3600-3700 kHz only to Amateur Extra Class licensees has created significant and unnecessary difficulties for CW, RTTY, and data operators and has left 3600-3700 kHz underutilized. Suggestions for restoring some of the lost RTTY/data band ranged from 25 to 100 kHz with 50 kHz being the most frequently mentioned. The Committee will recommend as part of its strawman proposals for members' consideration that the boundary between the 80 meter RTTY/data band and the 75 meter phone/image band be changed from 3600kHz to 3650 kHz. Of course, this would require FCC rulemaking. 5. A few commenters noted that W1AW CW transmissions and PSK31 activities just above 3580 kHz are in conflict. We have looked for another CW frequency for W1AW lower in the band, but have been unable to identify one that is not so close to a net frequency or other established use as to create the potential for a new conflict. With an additional 50 kHz for RTTY/data operation it should be possible to resolve this issue. 6. Creating an overlap between RTTY/data and phone/image was mentioned by some, who said that at times it is beneficial during emergency operations to be able to shift quickly between voice and data modes. That would be a significant philosophical departure from the existing HF regulatory regime, which separates RTTY/data and phone/image everywhere except on 160 and 60 meters, so the committee does not recommend it at this time. The proponents of this approach have the opportunity to demonstrate its merits in the 160 and 60 meter bands, if they wish to do so. (. . .) http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/July/Do c_23.pdf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 09:42:41 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:42:41 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience Message-ID: This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest Rob K5UJ From w5jo at brightok.net Wed Feb 25 10:03:04 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:03:04 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84D1B5F12A57405681095BDEFEB83151@JimPC> Yes but that type of operation has some people a bit concerned like getting a DXCC for instance. If I am not mistaken the ARRL allows credit for stations worked through this type of operation. Here is another example for the average ham. http://www.remotehamradio.com/ This isn't the only one. I ran across one last week that specifically said a person doesn't need a ham license. What wasn't clear on that site was if it controlled stations or was simply an internet site that simulated radio. It was aimed at hams on the web site. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest From oldradio at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 10:21:10 2015 From: oldradio at comcast.net (oldradio at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <84D1B5F12A57405681095BDEFEB83151@JimPC> References: <84D1B5F12A57405681095BDEFEB83151@JimPC> Message-ID: <154387329.13029596.1424877670639.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> This takes most of the fun and personal rewards of doing it yourself. [An old ham radio tradition.] Why even bother, lying about it is even cheaper/easier. Did I ever tell you about the time that I contacted the Titanic on my time machine? See what I mean? 73, John, K2TQN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Wilhite" To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:03:04 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience Yes but that type of operation has some people a bit concerned like getting a DXCC for instance. If I am not mistaken the ARRL allows credit for stations worked through this type of operation. Here is another example for the average ham. http://www.remotehamradio.com/ This isn't the only one. I ran across one last week that specifically said a person doesn't need a ham license. What wasn't clear on that site was if it controlled stations or was simply an internet site that simulated radio. It was aimed at hams on the web site. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest _ From deswynar at xplornet.ca Wed Feb 25 10:28:12 2015 From: deswynar at xplornet.ca (Eddy Swynar) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:28:12 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <154387329.13029596.1424877670639.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <84D1B5F12A57405681095BDEFEB83151@JimPC> <154387329.13029596.1424877670639.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 2015-02-25, at 10:21 AM, oldradio at comcast.net wrote: > This takes most of the fun and personal rewards of doing it yourself. [An old ham radio tradition.] > > Why even bother, lying about it is even cheaper/easier. Did I ever tell you about the time that I contacted the Titanic on my time machine? > > See what I mean? > > 73, John, K2TQN Hi John, I have often said that what's coming next into the wonderful world of radio sport(?) is the vision of the intrepid Ham turning on his pre-programmed computer & rig (in that order), then hitting the sack for a good night of shut-eye... In the morning, when the avid contester arises, he'll leisurely wander down to shack, coffee in hand, & see on the LCD that his station automatically "worked" 5,000 other stations in the preceding night's contest, and "earned" him DXCC, to boot. You think that day isn't coming...? Hell, it's probably already here. Eddy From w5jo at brightok.net Wed Feb 25 10:36:34 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:36:34 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <154387329.13029596.1424877670639.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <84D1B5F12A57405681095BDEFEB83151@JimPC> <154387329.13029596.1424877670639.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: This is the aspect that concerns most of those who earned their DXCC as you describe. In fact some of the real old guys don't like the DX cluster since it makes finding a station easier. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- This takes most of the fun and personal rewards of doing it yourself. [An old ham radio tradition.] Why even bother, lying about it is even cheaper/easier. Did I ever tell you about the time that I contacted the Titanic on my time machine? See what I mean? 73, John, K2TQN From k4kyv at charter.net Wed Feb 25 11:37:36 2015 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:37:36 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work Message-ID: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> If the link to the ARRL Committee report didn't work, look for an erroneous line break in the URL. The link came up on my screen as: >>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/July/ Do >>c_23.pdf >> even though I typed it in as one line, and other lines in the message longer than the URL came through as a single line. That way, the URL shows up only as: >>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/July/ Do>>, with the >>c_23.pdf >> part missing. If this is the case, copy and paste the whole URL as a single line in the address bar of your browser. I don't know why the software that runs e-mail programs and web forums does this, but it happens quite frequently with me. If I am doing something wrong, I don't know enough about operating computers to figure out what it is. Don k4kyv --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From w5jo at brightok.net Wed Feb 25 11:53:14 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:53:14 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> Guys and Gals, I suggest you contact the ARRL division director where you live and express your feelings about the proposal. Last night I tuned the 80 meter band and there was less activity in the 3.5 to 3.6 Mcy portion than in the 3.6 to 3.7 portion. I wonder if they have trouble only when there is some sort of contest and this may be an over reach? I am not judging the merits of the proposal but am skeptical since this particular committee has made proposals before than were not completely accurate by my listening to the band segments in question. If the digital band was going to be utilized sufficiently to have the problem cited in the editorial, then this is the time of the season for that to happen. So listen at your location and let you conscience be the guide. Remember that many digital signals can be contained in a small portion of the band. If you have a waterfall display, take a look, if not and you have access to someone who has a waterfall display then go look some evening. If you feel the regulation is necessary or unnecessary then so express to your division director. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- If the link to the ARRL Committee report didn't work, look for an erroneous line break in the URL. The link came up on my screen as: >>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/July/ Do >>c_23.pdf >> even though I typed it in as one line, and other lines in the message longer than the URL came through as a single line. That way, the URL shows up only as: >>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/July/ Do>>, with the >>c_23.pdf >> part missing. If this is the case, copy and paste the whole URL as a single line in the address bar of your browser. I don't know why the software that runs e-mail programs and web forums does this, but it happens quite frequently with me. If I am doing something wrong, I don't know enough about operating computers to figure out what it is. Don k4kyv From k4kyv at charter.net Wed Feb 25 12:39:03 2015 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:39:03 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience Message-ID: <002401d05121$f249d540$d6dd7fc0$@charter.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Wilhite" Yes but that type of operation has some people a bit concerned like getting a DXCC for instance. If I am not mistaken the ARRL allows credit for stations worked through this type of operation. Here is another example for the average ham. http://www.remotehamradio.com/ This isn't the only one. I ran across one last week that specifically said a person doesn't need a ham license. What wasn't clear on that site was if it controlled stations or was simply an internet site that simulated radio. It was aimed at hams on the web site. From: Eddy Swynar On 2015-02-25, at 10:21 AM, oldradio at comcast.net wrote: > This takes most of the fun and personal rewards of doing it yourself. > [An old ham radio tradition.] > > Why even bother, lying about it is even cheaper/easier. Did I ever tell you about the time that I contacted the Titanic on my time machine? > > See what I mean? > > 73, John, K2TQN Hi John, I have often said that what's coming next into the wonderful world of radio sport(?) is the vision of the intrepid Ham turning on his pre-programmed computer & rig (in that order), then hitting the sack for a good night of shut-eye... In the morning, when the avid contester arises, he'll leisurely wander down to shack, coffee in hand, & see on the LCD that his station automatically "worked" 5,000 other stations in the preceding night's contest, and "earned" him DXCC, to boot. You think that day isn't coming...? Hell, it's probably already here. Eddy ------------------------------ And eventually even rag-chewing, with coming advancements in artificial intelligence. Watch a video, go shopping or take a nap while the robot carries on your QSO for you and saves it all to flash drive. Just come back later and scroll through the conversation for anything that might be of interest. Yet they whinge and whine that AM is a "waste of spectrum space" because it has two sidebands. But then, my CQs are all robotic, recorded on Sony MiniDisc with automatic station control. I haven't called a live CQ for years; I just run the CQ, and if someone eventually answers, I run over to the operating position and take manual control of the station. I doubt if the other op is even aware that I wasn't calling CQ live. I get a lot more done at the workbench that way. Don k4kyv --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From w3slk at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 13:42:04 2015 From: w3slk at verizon.net (w3slk at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:42:04 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> Message-ID: I would love to contact my rep Jim, but I am not a member of the (be)League(d) and he will not respond to those who aren't 'dues paying members.' Even though the ARRgghhL is supposed to be the voice of all hams, they have not represented my interests in the last 2 decades. I'll tag 'em at the FCC queue! Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wilhite Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:53 AM To: amradio at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work Guys and Gals, I suggest you contact the ARRL division director where you live and express your feelings about the proposal. Last night I tuned the 80 meter band and there was less activity in the 3.5 to 3.6 Mcy portion than in the 3.6 to 3.7 portion. I wonder if they have trouble only when there is some sort of contest and this may be an over reach? I am not judging the merits of the proposal but am skeptical since this particular committee has made proposals before than were not completely accurate by my listening to the band segments in question. If the digital band was going to be utilized sufficiently to have the problem cited in the editorial, then this is the time of the season for that to happen. So listen at your location and let you conscience be the guide. Remember that many digital signals can be contained in a small portion of the band. If you have a waterfall display, take a look, if not and you have access to someone who has a waterfall display then go look some evening. If you feel the regulation is necessary or unnecessary then so express to your division director. Jim W5JO From rbethman at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 13:50:17 2015 From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:50:17 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> Message-ID: <54EE1969.50800@comcast.net> Count me in as one of the same! I was a member - ONCE - not to be one AGAIN! The only thing I ever heard was from my rep once a month or quarter, "How many messages did you handle?" That was when I figured it wasn't doing anything for me! Regards, Bob - N0DGN On 2/25/2015 1:42 PM, w3slk at verizon.net wrote: > I would love to contact my rep Jim, but I am not a member of the (be)League(d) and he will not respond to those who aren't 'dues paying members.' Even though the ARRgghhL is supposed to be the voice of all hams, they have not represented my interests in the last 2 decades. I'll tag 'em at the FCC queue! > Mod-U-Lator, > Mike(y) > W3SLK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Wilhite > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:53 AM > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work > > Guys and Gals, > > I suggest you contact the ARRL division director where you live and express > your feelings about the proposal. Last night I tuned the 80 meter band and > there was less activity in the 3.5 to 3.6 Mcy portion than in the 3.6 to 3.7 > portion. I wonder if they have trouble only when there is some sort of > contest and this may be an over reach? > > I am not judging the merits of the proposal but am skeptical since this > particular committee has made proposals before than were not completely > accurate by my listening to the band segments in question. If the digital > band was going to be utilized sufficiently to have the problem cited in the > editorial, then this is the time of the season for that to happen. So > listen at your location and let you conscience be the guide. Remember that > many digital signals can be contained in a small portion of the band. If > you have a waterfall display, take a look, if not and you have access to > someone who has a waterfall display then go look some evening. If you feel > the regulation is necessary or unnecessary then so express to your division > director. > > Jim > W5JO From oldradio at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 13:50:43 2015 From: oldradio at comcast.net (oldradio at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> Message-ID: <127151597.13213714.1424890243079.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hey Mike, You have a license and can operate on the air. I think they represented you OK keeping ham radio on the air since WW-I. We have no other one or group watching out for us. 73, John, K2TQN ----- Original Message ----- From: w3slk at verizon.net To: "Jim Wilhite" , amradio at mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:42:04 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work I would love to contact my rep Jim, but I am not a member of the (be)League(d) and he will not respond to those who aren't 'dues paying members.' Even though the ARRgghhL is supposed to be the voice of all hams, they have not represented my interests in the last 2 decades. I'll tag 'em at the FCC queue! Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wilhite Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:53 AM To: amradio at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work Guys and Gals, I suggest you contact the ARRL division director where you live and express your feelings about the proposal. Last night I tuned the 80 meter band and there was less activity in the 3.5 to 3.6 Mcy portion than in the 3.6 to 3.7 portion. I wonder if they have trouble only when there is some sort of contest and this may be an over reach? I am not judging the merits of the proposal but am skeptical since this particular committee has made proposals before than were not completely accurate by my listening to the band segments in question. If the digital band was going to be utilized sufficiently to have the problem cited in the editorial, then this is the time of the season for that to happen. So listen at your location and let you conscience be the guide. Remember that many digital signals can be contained in a small portion of the band. If you have a waterfall display, take a look, if not and you have access to someone who has a waterfall display then go look some evening. If you feel the regulation is necessary or unnecessary then so express to your division director. Jim W5JO ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From w3slk at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 14:11:11 2015 From: w3slk at verizon.net (w3slk at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:11:11 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: <127151597.13213714.1424890243079.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> <127151597.13213714.1424890243079.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: John, You obviously did not read or understand the full context of my message. I would invite you to re-read what I posted. What the (be)League(d) did in the past has been wiped cleaned by their actions in the present. Their endorsement of full ?bot operation? (not any worse than Glen Baxter?s bulletins, mind you!), their constant insistence of turning the lower end of our bands into gateways to the internet, just to name a few. Don?t get me (or others) started about them attempting to place restrictions on AM operation. There are a few in Newington that have ?sat in their seat too long? and need to depart. Maybe after that I may re-new but I haven?t seen any pigs fly in a while. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK -----Original Message----- From: oldradio at comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:50 PM To: w3slk at verizon.net Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net ; Jim Wilhite Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work Hey Mike, You have a license and can operate on the air. I think they represented you OK keeping ham radio on the air since WW-I. We have no other one or group watching out for us. 73, John, K2TQN From manualman at juno.com Wed Feb 25 14:39:13 2015 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:39:13 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work Message-ID: I think it has to do with the number of characters in the string. A line in some e-mail programs only allow "X" number of characters and then rolls with a "space" to the next line. This might be easier: http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports Scroll down to July 2014 and click on number 23 Band Planning Committee. Also, A further report was made at the January 2015 Board of Directors meeting; So, also review the January 2015 Committee Report, number 22 Band Planning Committee. Pete, wa2cwa On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:37:36 -0600 "Donald Chester" writes: > If the link to the ARRL Committee report didn't work, look for an > erroneous > line break in the URL. The link came up on my screen as: > > >>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/Ju ly/ > Do > >>c_23.pdf >> > > even though I typed it in as one line, and other lines in the > message longer > than the URL came through as a single line. That way, the URL shows > up only > as: > >>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2014/Ju ly/ > Do>>, with the >>c_23.pdf >> part missing. > > > If this is the case, copy and paste the whole URL as a single line > in the > address bar of your browser. I don't know why the software that > runs > e-mail programs and web forums does this, but it happens quite > frequently > with me. If I am doing something wrong, I don't know enough about > operating > computers to figure out what it is. > > Don k4kyv From manualman at juno.com Wed Feb 25 14:32:54 2015 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:32:54 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work Message-ID: In cases where you feel the Division Director has responding issues, when you send an e-mail, also copy the League President and/or the League CEO in any of your correspondence. The list of ARRL Officers: http://www.arrl.org/officers The list of Directors and Vice Directors: http://www.arrl.org/divisions I believe most Directors and Vice Directors today understand that they cannot ignore the comments. feelings, ideas, etc. of even non-members. The "good old boy" internal network of years past is rapidly fading away even at the ARRL. Don's comments shouldn't be taken lightly. This has the potential to snowball into something that could be a lot bigger. Read the proposal and make your feelings known. Pete, wa2cwa On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:42:04 -0500 writes: > I would love to contact my rep Jim, but I am not a member of the > (be)League(d) and he will not respond to those who aren't 'dues > paying members.' Even though the ARRgghhL is supposed to be the > voice of all hams, they have not represented my interests in the > last 2 decades. I'll tag 'em at the FCC queue! > Mod-U-Lator, > Mike(y) > W3SLK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Wilhite > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:53 AM > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work > > Guys and Gals, > > I suggest you contact the ARRL division director where you live and > express > your feelings about the proposal. Last night I tuned the 80 meter > band and > there was less activity in the 3.5 to 3.6 Mcy portion than in the > 3.6 to 3.7 > portion. I wonder if they have trouble only when there is some > sort of > contest and this may be an over reach? > > I am not judging the merits of the proposal but am skeptical since > this > particular committee has made proposals before than were not > completely > accurate by my listening to the band segments in question. If the > digital > band was going to be utilized sufficiently to have the problem cited > in the > editorial, then this is the time of the season for that to happen. > So > listen at your location and let you conscience be the guide. > Remember that > many digital signals can be contained in a small portion of the > band. If > you have a waterfall display, take a look, if not and you have > access to > someone who has a waterfall display then go look some evening. If > you feel > the regulation is necessary or unnecessary then so express to your > division > director. > > Jim > W5JO From amradio at mailman.qth.net Wed Feb 25 15:16:27 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (W4AWM via AMRadio) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:16:27 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience Message-ID: In a message dated 2/25/2015 9:44:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ranchorobbo at gmail.com writes: http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-i n-arrl-dx-cw-contest This isn't ham radio and should be banned from contests. 73, John, W4AWM From amradio at mailman.qth.net Wed Feb 25 17:06:13 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (Bill Guyger via AMRadio) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1274391835.44548.1424901973415.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> It's not really "anti ham", the ops just weren't at the?transmitter site, they were controlling the rigs there remotely. I?have seen write ups about hams who live in apartments in large cities?who have the wherewithal to have a place out in the country (so to speak) where they can have large antenna arrays and control the rigs there via IP and Skype. If I had the capability (I ain't rich, I work for?radio?stations)?I'd kind of like to do the same. I live in a house,?and at?the moment all the antenna farm I have is a Gap?Titan DX vertical. I also live about 3 blocks from?a DART light rail line and the monster switching power supplies they use to?provide high voltage DC to the trains has got to be contributing to my S7 background noise level. I'm trying to get some time?with a friends cherry picker truck so I can cut down some limbs on trees in the back yard in order to string up?something like an Alpha Delta multi band dipole from a tree in the front yard to a tree in the back corner of the back yard that is long enough to cover 75 and up, but until then I'm stuck with the vertical because some fool thought there needed to be power, Telco, and cable drops running through the middle of the back yard where there obviously needs to be antennas. Bill AD5OL From: Rob Atkinson To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:42 AM Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest Rob K5UJ ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From amradio at mailman.qth.net Wed Feb 25 17:47:06 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (W4AWM via AMRadio) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:47:06 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <1274391835.44548.1424901973415.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14bc2ec1242-7492-2064@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> These new rice boxes call CQ, keep the log and probably even bring you a cold 807! I'm sorry but there is no skill in that, (Once you master the menus). That is not ham radio, that is appliance operating. I wouldn't doubt that the FCC will eventually give up issuing ham tickets the way they did with CB. 73, John -----Original Message----- From: Bill Guyger via AMRadio To: Rob Atkinson ; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience It's not really "anti ham", the ops just weren't at the transmitter site, they were controlling the rigs there remotely. I have seen write ups about hams who live in apartments in large cities who have the wherewithal to have a place out in the country (so to speak) where they can have large antenna arrays and control the rigs there via IP and Skype. If I had the capability (I ain't rich, I work for radio stations) I'd kind of like to do the same. I live in a house, and at the moment all the antenna farm I have is a Gap Titan DX vertical. I also live about 3 blocks from a DART light rail line and the monster switching power supplies they use to provide high voltage DC to the trains has got to be contributing to my S7 background noise level. I'm trying to get some time with a friends cherry picker truck so I can cut down some limbs on trees in the back yard in order to string up something like an Alpha Delta multi band dipole from a tree in the front yard to a tree in the back corner of the back yard that is long enough to cover 75 and up, but until then I'm stuck with the vertical because some fool thought there needed to be power, Telco, and cable drops running through the middle of the back yard where there obviously needs to be antennas. Bill AD5OL From: Rob Atkinson To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:42 AM Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest Rob K5UJ ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From amradio at mailman.qth.net Wed Feb 25 17:48:34 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (W4AWM via AMRadio) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:48:34 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <14bc2ec1242-7492-2064@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <14bc2ed6bb6-7492-2077@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> These new rice boxes call CQ, keep the log and probably even bring you a cold 807! I'm sorry but there is no skill in that, (Once you master the menus). That is not ham radio, that is appliance operating. I wouldn't doubt that the FCC will eventually give up issuing ham tickets the way they did with CB. 73, John -----Original Message----- From: w4awm To: bguyger ; ranchorobbo ; amradio Sent: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 5:47 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience These new rice boxes call CQ, keep the log and probably even bring you a cold 807! I'm sorry but there is no skill in that, (Once you master the menus). That is not ham radio, that is appliance operating. I wouldn't doubt that the FCC will eventually give up issuing ham tickets the way they did with CB. 73, John -----Original Message----- From: Bill Guyger via AMRadio To: Rob Atkinson ; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience It's not really "anti ham", the ops just weren't at the transmitter site, they were controlling the rigs there remotely. I have seen write ups about hams who live in apartments in large cities who have the wherewithal to have a place out in the country (so to speak) where they can have large antenna arrays and control the rigs there via IP and Skype. If I had the capability (I ain't rich, I work for radio stations) I'd kind of like to do the same. I live in a house, and at the moment all the antenna farm I have is a Gap Titan DX vertical. I also live about 3 blocks from a DART light rail line and the monster switching power supplies they use to provide high voltage DC to the trains has got to be contributing to my S7 background noise level. I'm trying to get some time with a friends cherry picker truck so I can cut down some limbs on trees in the back yard in order to string up something like an Alpha Delta multi band dipole from a tree in the front yard to a tree in the back corner of the back yard that is long enough to cover 75 and up, but until then I'm stuck with the vertical because some fool thought there needed to be power, Telco, and cable drops running through the middle of the back yard where there obviously needs to be antennas. Bill AD5OL From: Rob Atkinson To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:42 AM Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest Rob K5UJ ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. 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This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 18:36:34 2015 From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:36:34 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <14bc2ed6bb6-7492-2077@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> References: <14bc2ed6bb6-7492-2077@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <54784141-5616-4381-AD57-C45F3BB46B51@sbcglobal.net> Oh, please. This is a remotely controlled station, not automatic. Should we all go back to straight keys along with paper logs and paper dupe sheets? How many here are contesters? No one can be even remotely competitive without computers. DX clusters are here to stay. They differ from the good old days in that the pile gets big faster. DX clubs used to maintain calling trees because they didn't have DX clusters. Simply because these guys didn't contest in the same way it was done in the good ol' days doesn't make any less ham radio. Simply different. Kim N5OP "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith From amradio at mailman.qth.net Wed Feb 25 18:43:46 2015 From: amradio at mailman.qth.net (Bill Guyger via AMRadio) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <14bc2ec1242-7492-2064@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> References: <14bc2ec1242-7492-2064@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <298645829.100432.1424907826170.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> No doubt they were using some form of rig that can be directly controlled via IP. But........depending how much money you have or how resourceful you are I can see rigging say a set of Collins 75A-x and 32V-x radios or S line radios to be remotely controlled via servos or stepper motors coupled to the knobs and or switches?directly?or by some friction drive and getting frequency and level info by sampling the LO's and digitizing for IP transport to your?location. You'd have to write? the software that allowed you to control the "rig" from afar, but it's doable.??Audio via Skype and maybe some video feedback via some form of internet camera (maybe instead of the digitized frequency and meter method)?as well and you've got a BA version of an internet controlled radio. And if a tube needs changing...some of those factory robots have multiple axis controls that resolve to thousandths of an inch so if you've got the bucks that's doable too. You could probably do that remotely too just like a surgeon in Dallas can do surgery on someone in Seattle. Just shell out the bucks I'm with you on plowing through a bunch of menus, but is that much different than learning what all those knobs and switches on BA gear do? Heck, back in the 1920's or so the controls weren't even labeled. If you didn't know what they did, you had no business messing with them. At least guys of my age (67 - not sure if?you're terribly far away) had the luxury of having radios that had actual lettering on the panels. I'm a through BA guy and have only one new tech radio which is a Flex 1500 that I bought to be the VFO and receiver for a?813 based?rig I built out of the '55 handbook. I?haven't bothered doing much more than using the default settings FWIW,?like I say I'm not all that much into doing that. But, something for everybody. The fact that some hams do have radios that have manuals that make the flight manual for the space shuttle look like?"Winnie The Pooh and the Blustery?Day"? doesn't mean they are less ham than anyone else. Bill AD5OL From: "w4awm at aol.com" To: bguyger at yahoo.com; ranchorobbo at gmail.com; amradio at mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience These new rice boxes call CQ, keep the log and probably even bring you a cold 807!? I'm sorry but there is no skill in that, (Once you master the menus). That is not ham radio, that is appliance operating.? I wouldn't doubt that the FCC will eventually give up issuing ham tickets the way they did with CB.?73,???John??????????? -----Original Message----- From: Bill Guyger via AMRadio To: Rob Atkinson ; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience It's not really "anti ham", the ops just weren't at the?transmitter site, they were controlling the rigs there remotely. I?have seen write ups about hams who live in apartments in large cities?who have the wherewithal to have a place out in the country (so to speak) where they can have large antenna arrays and control the rigs there via IP and Skype. If I had the capability (I ain't rich, I work for?radio?stations)?I'd kind of like to do the same. I live in a house,?and at?the moment all the antenna farm I have is a Gap?Titan DX vertical. I also live about 3 blocks from?a DART light rail line and the monster switching power supplies they use to?provide high voltage DC to the trains has got to be contributing to my S7 background noise level. I'm trying to get some time?with a friends cherry picker truck so I can cut down some limbs on trees in the back yard in order to string up?something like an Alpha Delta multi band dipole from a tree in the front yard to a tree in the back corner of the back yard that is long enough to cover 75 and up, but until then I'm stuck with the vertical because some fool thought there needed to be power, Telco, and cable drops running through the middle of the back yard where there obviously needs to be antennas. Bill AD5OL From: Rob Atkinson To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:42 AM Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience This has to be the ULTIMATE ANTI-HAM HAM EXPERIENCE http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest Rob K5UJ ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. 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This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rbethman at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 18:47:34 2015 From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:47:34 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <54784141-5616-4381-AD57-C45F3BB46B51@sbcglobal.net> References: <14bc2ed6bb6-7492-2077@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> <54784141-5616-4381-AD57-C45F3BB46B51@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <54EE5F16.2000106@comcast.net> ALL, I am not NOW or have EVER been a contester! I do NOT consider that "communicating"! Rag Chewing and round tables ARE communicating! Regards, Bob - N0DGN On 2/25/2015 6:36 PM, Kim Elmore wrote: > > > How many here are contesters? No one can be even remotely competitive without computers. DX clusters are here to stay. They differ from the good old days in that the pile gets big faster. DX clubs used to maintain calling trees because they didn't have DX clusters. > > Kim N5OP From mark.k3msb at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 18:49:36 2015 From: mark.k3msb at gmail.com (Mark K3MSB) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:49:36 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: <54784141-5616-4381-AD57-C45F3BB46B51@sbcglobal.net> References: <14bc2ed6bb6-7492-2077@webprd-a88.mail.aol.com> <54784141-5616-4381-AD57-C45F3BB46B51@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Well put Kim. And, as someone that does remember the days of paper logs and paper dupe sheets, I'm sure glad I have a computer to do the logging now! The important thing with this issue is to keep the playing field level. 73 Mark K3MSB On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Kim Elmore wrote: > Oh, please. This is a remotely controlled station, not automatic. > > Should we all go back to straight keys along with paper logs and paper > dupe sheets? > > How many here are contesters? No one can be even remotely competitive > without computers. DX clusters are here to stay. They differ from the good > old days in that the pile gets big faster. DX clubs used to maintain > calling trees because they didn't have DX clusters. > > Simply because these guys didn't contest in the same way it was done in > the good ol' days doesn't make any less ham radio. Simply different. > > Kim N5OP > > "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as > the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith > > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 19:17:30 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:17:30 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] The Ultimate NonHam Ham experience In-Reply-To: References: <84D1B5F12A57405681095BDEFEB83151@JimPC> <154387329.13029596.1424877670639.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: There are these things called "CW Scrapers" that receive and digitize an entire ham band, filter the data looking for CQ de and present that on a website or something so you can see who is calling CQ and where. You don't even have to tune around and rely on antennas and rx skills to find DX. Why not just get rid of all the radio stuff and put it all on the internet? Who cares about the sounds of relays, FILAMENT GLOW, LAMPS, METERS, glowing ANODES and electronics and propagation KNOWLEDGE. Who cares about LICENSES? That's all for SUCKERS. 73 Rob K5UJ On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Jim Wilhite wrote: > This is the aspect that concerns most of those who earned their DXCC as you > describe. In fact some of the real old guys don't like the DX cluster since > it makes finding a station easier. > From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 19:22:43 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:22:43 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> Message-ID: In my opinion, all digital needs to be segregated into its own band i.e. CW/digital because digital in any form is completely incompatible with analog voice modes. the "phone/image" mode is a farce and a sham. It is to accommodate digital slopbucketeers, some who use digital as a deliberate QRM weapon, exploiting the relaxed CW id requirement that went away around 20 years ago, a BIG mistake. Even if the QRM is not deliberate, it is still QRM. By the way, my standing m.o. is to ignore such emissions, since with no understandable ID, I am unable to verify if the noise I hear is a part 15 device, a ham, or an intruder. The solution is to simply require any and all digital modes be re-located to some subband, 3500 to 3650. I'd go along with this if it caused all the digital slobpucket lids to have to move out of the analog phone band. Until then I will operate and ignore digital noise that is unidentified as far as I am concerned. 160 m. does not seem to have this problem--I am not sure why, but the same solution should be imposed on at least 40 m. and maybe other bands. 73 Rob K5UJ From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 19:31:11 2015 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:31:11 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 link won't work In-Reply-To: References: <001c01d05119$5cbd5a90$16380fb0$@charter.net> <088782347F624B88A8891ADB64452D62@JimPC> Message-ID: P.s. If ARRL and/or FCC is unwilling to force all digital emissions into a quarantined sub-band, then the CW ID requirement should be brought back and enforced for ALL digital operations of hams. In this day with it all being generated by software, it is trivial to program a station ID at 20 or 30 wpm CW to be sent at the END of every transmission, which would get around the problem of synchronization, since sync is lost anyway at the END of a transmission. Then any op can ID the station if necessary (i.e. in the event of deliberate QRM) and special equipment is not a requirement. It is ridiculous that I should have to have a computer and software in order to tell if a transmission is from a ham station. Since I am unable to determine if I am hearing a ham or a leaky CATV coax line, I will ignore the noise and strap. 73 Rob K5UJ From w5jo at brightok.net Thu Feb 26 14:57:01 2015 From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:57:01 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] Fw: ARLB011 ARRL Seeks Member Input on Draft HF Band Plan Proposals Message-ID: <672AFA85B6BC479BA347EFD4014EBB5F@JimPC> Ok Guys here is the official bulletin. I urge you to comment member or not, for they speak for everyone when they petition the FCC. Jim W5JO -----Original Message----- From: ARRL Web site Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:33 PM To: w5jo at brightok.net Subject: ARLB011 ARRL Seeks Member Input on Draft HF Band Plan Proposals SB QST @ ARL $ARLB011 ARLB011 ARRL Seeks Member Input on Draft HF Band Plan Proposals ZCZC AG11 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 11 ARLB011 >From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT February 26, 2015 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB011 ARLB011 ARRL Seeks Member Input on Draft HF Band Plan Proposals The ARRL is asking members to comment by April 19 on possible changes to the League's HF Band Plans suggested by the HF Band Planning Committee. The survey is part of the committee's efforts to tweak the band plans for the RTTY/data/CW portions of 80 through 10 meters - excepting 60 meters. The committee developed its suggested revisions to the voluntary band plans after reviewing some 400 member comments in response to a March 2014 solicitation that sought suggestions for using the spectrum more efficiently so that data modes may coexist compatibly. "The committee concluded that most of the concerns voiced by members could be addressed by modest adjustments to the existing band plans, and mainly by confining data modes with bandwidths greater than 500 Hz to the FCC-designated segments for automatically controlled digital stations (ACDS) and to parts of the RTTY/data subbands above those segments," ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ said. His article detailing the committee's suggestions will appear in the April edition of QST. The proposed changes differentiate among ACDS, narrow RTTY/data modes having a bandwidth no greater than 500 Hz, and wider data modes having a bandwidth up to 2700 Hz. Band by Band Draft Recommendations The committee suggests several modifications to the 80 meter band plan. FCC action in 2006 reduced the 80 meter RTTY/data subband to 100 kHz and limited access to the 3600-3700 kHz segment to Amateur Extra class licensees. "Unless and until the FCC Rules are modified, changes in the band plan for 3500-3600 kHz will not improve the situation," Sumner said. The HF Band Planning Committee recommends that the League petition the FCC to move the boundary between the 80 meter RTTY/data band and the 75 meter phone/image band from 3600 to 3650 kHz and restoring that segment to General and Advanced class licensees. Members are asked to comment on this proposal, as well as on whether or not the ARRL should petition the FCC for these other changes: * Shift the ACDS band segment from 3585-3600 to 3600-3615 kHz, consistent with the IARU Region 1 and 2 band plans. * Extend the current Novice/Technician CW segment of 3525-3600 kHz to 3650 kHz. * Add 80 meter RTTY/data privileges for Novices and Technicians. On 40 meters, the committee concluded that it would be unrealistic to try to bring the ARRL band plan into alignment with the rest of the world, particularly with Regions 1 and 3 where operating patterns developed when the entire band, including phone, was just 100 kHz wide and is still only 200 kHz. While 7040 kHz is a recognized RTTY/data DX frequency in the band plan, the best place for other RTTY/data activity in the US is above 7070 kHz. The committee proposes aligning the band plan with the "Considerate Operator's Frequency Guide," with wide data modes - outside of ACDS - at 7115-7125 kHz. The "Guide" shows 7070-7125 kHz for RTTY/data, while the ARRL band plan shows 7080-7125 kHz. The FCC mandates that ACDS be confined to the 7100-7105 kHz segment. On 30 meters, the committee recommends confining wide data modes to 10.140-10.150 MHz, separated from other RTTY/data at 10.130-10.140 MHz. On 20 meters, the committee recommends using the 1 kHz IARU/NCDXF beacon network frequency (14.0995-14.1005 MHz) as a line in the sand between wide ACDS in the 14.1005-14.112 MHz segment, and narrow ACDS in the 14.095-14.0995 MHz segment. The committee recommends 14.070-14.095 MHz for RTTY and narrowband data, noting that so-called "weak-signal" data modes often are used between 14.070 and 14.078 MHz. On 17 meters, the committee recommends confining wide data modes to the FCC-mandated ACDS segment of 18.105-18.110 MHz, separated from narrow RTTY/data at 18.100-18.105 MHz. FCC rules do not permit RTTY/data above 18.110 MHz, limiting options for this band. On 15 meters, the committee recommends that 21.070-21.090 MHz for narrow RTTY/data modes, the FCC-mandated ACDS segment of 21.090-21.100 MHz for both narrow and wide automatically controlled data station activity, and above 21.100 MHz for any additional wide data activity. The ARRL Board also wants members to comment on the desirability of adding RTTY/data privileges for Novices and Technicians in their existing 15 meter segment, where they're now limited to CW. On 12 meters, the committee recommends confining wide data to the FCC-mandated ACDS segment, 24.925-24.930 MHz, separated from narrow RTTY/data operation at 24.920-24.925 MHz. FCC rules do not permit RTTY/data operation above 24.930 MHz, limiting options for this band. On 10 meters, the committee recommends that wide data be confined to the FCC-mandated ACDS segment, 28.120-28.189 MHz, separated from narrow RTTY/data modes at 28.070-28.120 MHz. How to Comment The League has set up a web page to record members' preferences and comments at, http://www.arrl.org/bandplan . Those wishing to offer more detailed comments may e-mail ARRL at, bandplan at arrl.org . The comment deadline is April 19. The HF Band Planning Committee will deliver its final report at the ARRL Board of Directors' July meeting. NNNN /EX From manualman at juno.com Thu Feb 26 14:56:52 2015 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:56:52 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Fw: ARRL Seeks Member Input on Draft HF Band Plan Proposals Message-ID: This came today: Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:32:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARLB011 ARRL Seeks Member Input on Draft HF Band Plan Proposals The ARRL is asking members to comment by April 19 on possible changes to the League's HF Band Plans suggested by the HF Band Planning Committee. The survey is part of the committee's efforts to tweak the band plans for the RTTY/data/CW portions of 80 through 10 meters - excepting 60 meters. The committee developed its suggested revisions to the voluntary band plans after reviewing some 400 member comments in response to a March 2014 solicitation that sought suggestions for using the spectrum more efficiently so that data modes may coexist compatibly. "The committee concluded that most of the concerns voiced by members could be addressed by modest adjustments to the existing band plans, and mainly by confining data modes with bandwidths greater than 500 Hz to the FCC-designated segments for automatically controlled digital stations (ACDS) and to parts of the RTTY/data subbands above those segments," ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ said. His article detailing the committee's suggestions will appear in the April edition of QST. The proposed changes differentiate among ACDS, narrow RTTY/data modes having a bandwidth no greater than 500 Hz, and wider data modes having a bandwidth up to 2700 Hz. Band by Band Draft Recommendations The committee suggests several modifications to the 80 meter band plan. FCC action in 2006 reduced the 80 meter RTTY/data subband to 100 kHz and limited access to the 3600-3700 kHz segment to Amateur Extra class licensees. "Unless and until the FCC Rules are modified, changes in the band plan for 3500-3600 kHz will not improve the situation," Sumner said. The HF Band Planning Committee recommends that the League petition the FCC to move the boundary between the 80 meter RTTY/data band and the 75 meter phone/image band from 3600 to 3650 kHz and restoring that segment to General and Advanced class licensees. Members are asked to comment on this proposal, as well as on whether or not the ARRL should petition the FCC for these other changes: * Shift the ACDS band segment from 3585-3600 to 3600-3615 kHz, consistent with the IARU Region 1 and 2 band plans. * Extend the current Novice/Technician CW segment of 3525-3600 kHz to 3650 kHz. * Add 80 meter RTTY/data privileges for Novices and Technicians. On 40 meters, the committee concluded that it would be unrealistic to try to bring the ARRL band plan into alignment with the rest of the world, particularly with Regions 1 and 3 where operating patterns developed when the entire band, including phone, was just 100 kHz wide and is still only 200 kHz. While 7040 kHz is a recognized RTTY/data DX frequency in the band plan, the best place for other RTTY/data activity in the US is above 7070 kHz. The committee proposes aligning the band plan with the "Considerate Operator's Frequency Guide," with wide data modes - outside of ACDS - at 7115-7125 kHz. The "Guide" shows 7070-7125 kHz for RTTY/data, while the ARRL band plan shows 7080-7125 kHz. The FCC mandates that ACDS be confined to the 7100-7105 kHz segment. On 30 meters, the committee recommends confining wide data modes to 10.140-10.150 MHz, separated from other RTTY/data at 10.130-10.140 MHz. On 20 meters, the committee recommends using the 1 kHz IARU/NCDXF beacon network frequency (14.0995-14.1005 MHz) as a line in the sand between wide ACDS in the 14.1005-14.112 MHz segment, and narrow ACDS in the 14.095-14.0995 MHz segment. The committee recommends 14.070-14.095 MHz for RTTY and narrowband data, noting that so-called "weak-signal" data modes often are used between 14.070 and 14.078 MHz. On 17 meters, the committee recommends confining wide data modes to the FCC-mandated ACDS segment of 18.105-18.110 MHz, separated from narrow RTTY/data at 18.100-18.105 MHz. FCC rules do not permit RTTY/data above 18.110 MHz, limiting options for this band. On 15 meters, the committee recommends that 21.070-21.090 MHz for narrow RTTY/data modes, the FCC-mandated ACDS segment of 21.090-21.100 MHz for both narrow and wide automatically controlled data station activity, and above 21.100 MHz for any additional wide data activity. The ARRL Board also wants members to comment on the desirability of adding RTTY/data privileges for Novices and Technicians in their existing 15 meter segment, where they're now limited to CW. On 12 meters, the committee recommends confining wide data to the FCC-mandated ACDS segment, 24.925-24.930 MHz, separated from narrow RTTY/data operation at 24.920-24.925 MHz. FCC rules do not permit RTTY/data operation above 24.930 MHz, limiting options for this band. On 10 meters, the committee recommends that wide data be confined to the FCC-mandated ACDS segment, 28.120-28.189 MHz, separated from narrow RTTY/data modes at 28.070-28.120 MHz. How to Comment The League has set up a web page to record members' preferences and comments at, http://www.arrl.org/bandplan . Those wishing to offer more detailed comments may e-mail ARRL at, bandplan at arrl.org . The comment deadline is April 19. The HF Band Planning Committee will deliver its final report at the ARRL Board of Directors' July meeting. NNNN /EX

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