From k4kyv at charter.net Mon Sep 4 16:55:39 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 15:55:39 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] FCC Technological Advisory Council Investigating Technical Regulations Message-ID: <000201d325c0$2a2d5980$7e880c80$@charter.net> The FCC Technological Advisory Council is looking into FCC technical regulations to determine if reforms or changes might be in order. The FCC has asked its Technological Advisory Council to help identify FCC technical rules that are obsolete or may be ripe for change in light of current communications technologies. Revisiting the AM power issue comes to mind. Recommendations for Removing Obsolete or Unnecessary Technical Rules: The rapid pace of technology evolution often makes rules that were adopted years ago unnecessary or irrelevant. This work group is tasked to review the FCC technical rules to identify and prioritize those that should be eliminated. In making recommendations the work group is to consider the benefits and costs of doing so, particularly relative to any potential risks of detrimental impact or unintended consequences to existing stakeholders and how those risks can be mitigated. The work group is also tasked with identifying alternative processes for streamlining the introduction of new technologies as an alternative to the Commission's traditional approach of considering technical matters through rule making. The Commission has largely left it to industry to develop standards for new technologies. Would it be feasible to use standards bodies for development of standards for such things as transmitter power limits and out of band emissions? Are there processes that exist or can be developed that bring stakeholders together to develop consensus recommendations on technical matters, including whether it is necessary to embody specific elements in regulations? Interested parties may file comments in ET Docket 17-215 until October 30, using the FCC Electronic Comment Filing System (ECFS). http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0901/DA-17-80 0A1.pdf PS: This could be a double-edged sword, making it all the more imperative to watch closely. For example, certain interest groups might take this as an opportunity to re-launch the ill-fated regulation-by-bandwidth proposal, or to otherwise impose specific bandwidth limits or other onerous regulations adverse to AM. Less likely, but not beyond the realm of possibility, we could see renewed attempts to outlaw AM altogether. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mjcal77 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 6 10:31:53 2017 From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 14:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] MT5-A References: <1676326750.4170242.1504708313472.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1676326750.4170242.1504708313472@mail.yahoo.com> Anybody have a schematic of the Babcock MT5-A mobile xmtr, or can provide a clear picture of the underside of the chassis of the 'A' model? I have a copy of the MT5-B manual from BAMA, but I am unsure of why it is a B model. One difference is a toggle switch to allow the inclusion of a remove tuning network to make the B model a VFO xmtr instead of xtal only. There is no toggle in the A model for that. I have an A model that somebody got into, changing the 6CL6 osc/driver to a 6BK5, but never completed the work, or didn't know what they were doing as they made no connection to the plate of the 6BK5. I would like to change it back to stock condx. Surplus Sales of NE has a manual, but thought I would ask around first. Thanks for any help. Charlie, W4MEC in NC From tobiebw2 at newmexico.com Sun Sep 10 21:16:33 2017 From: tobiebw2 at newmexico.com (Steve Wender) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 19:16:33 -0600 Subject: [AMRadio] Question about HQ-180 Message-ID: Hi All, I am about done bringing an HQ-180 back to life.? Because there seemed to be several versions on the alignment procedure, it took a while to figure it out. The question I have is about whether the two variable caps for the main tuning and bandspread are shielded.? I have seen some pictures showing what looks like an aluminum box over them.? In fact there is a bolt sticking up from the caps that can be used to hold down the shield covers.? Do you think these are necessary? My HQ-180 doesn't have them. Any opinions? Thanks, Steve KC5WN From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Mon Sep 11 05:44:33 2017 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 04:44:33 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Question about HQ-180 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That shielding probably matters for stability and isolation. I'd try fabricating a replacement out of soft sheet metal, probably aluminum. 73 Rob K5UJ On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Steve Wender wrote: > Hi All, > > I am about done bringing an HQ-180 back to life. Because there seemed to be > several versions on the alignment procedure, it took a while to figure it > out. > > The question I have is about whether the two variable caps for the main > tuning and bandspread are shielded. I have seen some pictures showing what > looks like an aluminum box over them. In fact there is a bolt sticking up > from the caps that can be used to hold down the shield covers. Do you think > these are necessary? My HQ-180 doesn't have them. Any opinions? From hbrnut at suddenlink.net Mon Sep 11 09:55:28 2017 From: hbrnut at suddenlink.net (WA5VGO) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:55:28 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Question about HQ-180 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8df4f6a6-8567-0503-8ac5-9a7797199ce5@suddenlink.net> Hammarlund originally placed a plastic dust cover over the capacitors. They discovered that removing it improved stability so stopped using it. They also recommended that it be removed from receivers that had it. Darrell On 9/10/2017 8:16 PM, Steve Wender wrote: > Hi All, > > I am about done bringing an HQ-180 back to life.? Because there seemed > to be several versions on the alignment procedure, it took a while to > figure it out. > > The question I have is about whether the two variable caps for the > main tuning and bandspread are shielded.? I have seen some pictures > showing what looks like an aluminum box over them.? In fact there is a > bolt sticking up from the caps that can be used to hold down the > shield covers.? Do you think these are necessary? My HQ-180 doesn't > have them. Any opinions? > > > Thanks, > > > Steve > > KC5WN > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hbrnut at suddenlink.net From ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 11 20:06:10 2017 From: ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net (Ron.K3PID) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:06:10 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Question about HQ-180 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D7D48294DC14033935B71AFD4B6693E@Zeus> My 180 has plastic covers which I am told created a temperature drift issue so most users have removed them. 73 es Gud Luck! Ron K3PID From mjcal77 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 18 12:11:00 2017 From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] Babcock MT5-A & LW-51 References: <1442604345.4357792.1505751060250.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1442604345.4357792.1505751060250@mail.yahoo.com> Well, got this little vintage transmitter going. The info on the web you can find is for the MT5-B, but I opted to get the manual from Surplus Sales of NE. I know folks have mixed opinions of this company, but, I have had all good luck with them. They have a lot of manuals, many that nobody has, they make clear and sharp copies, and comes in a plastic binder, check them out if you have an odd piece of gear. The MT5-A is different than the B, and I was able to put this one back together and get it going. The oscillator works as a Colpitts in 2 positions and a Pierce in the other two, and for some reason, a previous owner cut one turn off the oscillator plate coil, making it not come to resonance on 20 meters. He also either replaced the tank coil for 80 and 40, and used link coupling with a piece of fabric covered wire, the only non-plastic wire in the unit, or modified it in some other way, the schematic shows the tank tapped, not linked, and 20-10 meter tank coil is tapped.. I redid his 3 turn link, which had the cold end going to the output and the hot to ground, the math called for 4-6 turns to match a 52 ohm load at that diameter so put 5 on it with teflon wire, and went from a couple watts to 28 out. It is the king of possible harmonic operation though. The crystal selector is also the band switch. You can operate 80 and 40 in position 1, 40 in position 2, 20-10 in position 3 and 4, but, in all positions you get multiple dips and it will tune up fine and radiate on a harmonic in a flash. The manual tells you where the dial should be for the band of interest, and it is accurate. It is carbon mic only, but puts a hefty amount of voltage on the mic circuit, and has some really clean sounding audio, even with a beat up T17 mic. The mic audio stage is balanced input and output to a pair of balanced input 6AQ5's, plate modulating a single 6146. Ought to be fun to try on 10 meters when the band is open too. I still need a picture of the top and bottom of the chassis if anybody else has one of these. The plate tank circuit, and even the plate tune capacitor, while working as the manual describes, looks like it was all changed from the original. I had to guess about the wiring of the oscillator tank and PA grid circuit by looking at the remains of clipped off components and wires underneath and putting the missing parts back in, as it logically seemed they would go. If you even listen to the Old Friends Net on 3715, Tuesday mornings at 9AM or Sunday's at 4PM, you might hear this one in operation. If anybody else has one, or intends to restore one, let me know. I also got the LW -51 6 meter transmitter going, running it off of a Multi Elmac P2V power supply. Another hard to find information about rig, I got the manual for it off a site called 'Ebaman', but this was apparently a later model with a couple differences. Still don't know if this came with a bottom cover, there is no indication of it ever having one, or a way to attach it if it did. I chased my tail on getting that one going. I was using a crystal that works just fine in the Lafayette, Ameco, Gonset, Polytronics, and Heath Seneca 6 meter rigs, but the LW-51 didn't like it. Could only get low drive and 5 watts, until I tried another crystal and realized how much time I had spent for nothing. Well, trying to get a lot out of that one crystal had every thing optimized, so the new rock put the rig at it's best. We also have a 6 meter AM net that meets down here on Tuesday nights at 8PM, 50.4MC. We have had as many as 16 checkins, but not so much lately. Heck, even six has people hooking a computer up and typing instead of actually hamming, if this keeps up, I'm going to model trains. I sent an email to a fellow that has a site with info about the LW company, but it was 8 years old, haven't heard anything back, either it went to spam or he is dead. Charlie, W4MEC in NC From k4kyv at charter.net Tue Sep 19 00:53:33 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:53:33 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted Message-ID: <001801d33103$3f3ef5b0$bdbce110$@charter.net> NPRM (the original 1982 proposal) and Report & Order (FCC's 1983 decision) are now posted on QRZ.com website. More documents to follow. http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/am-power-issue-revisited.581553/ Informative history for more recent newcomers to the AM community, which probably includes the majority of currently active AMers. Essential information for those wishing to submit comments to ET Docket 17-215, the FCC's enquiry regarding removal of obsolete or unnecessary technical rules. http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0901/DA-17-80 0A1.pdf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From oldrotorheadsarge at outlook.com Tue Sep 19 16:03:13 2017 From: oldrotorheadsarge at outlook.com (Robert Bethman) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:03:13 +0000 Subject: [AMRadio] Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted In-Reply-To: <001801d33103$3f3ef5b0$bdbce110$@charter.net> References: <001801d33103$3f3ef5b0$bdbce110$@charter.net> Message-ID: All, Links "should" be enclosed with the symbols < >. Otherwise word wrap makes the link unusable. This is what I had to do to get the document indicated. Regards, N0DGN On 9/19/2017 12:53 AM, Donald Chester wrote: NPRM (the original 1982 proposal) and Report & Order (FCC's 1983 decision) are now posted on QRZ.com website. More documents to follow. http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/am-power-issue-revisited.581553/ Informative history for more recent newcomers to the AM community, which probably includes the majority of currently active AMers. Essential information for those wishing to submit comments to ET Docket 17-215, the FCC's enquiry regarding removal of obsolete or unnecessary technical rules. http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0901/DA-17-80 0A1.pdf From k4kyv at charter.net Tue Sep 19 20:12:44 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:12:44 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted In-Reply-To: References: <001801d33103$3f3ef5b0$bdbce110$@charter.net> Message-ID: <000c01d331a5$2ebbc9a0$8c335ce0$@charter.net> > All, > > Links "should" be enclosed with the symbols < >. Otherwise word wrap > makes the link unusable. > > > 17-80 > 0A1.pdf> 901/DA-17-800A1.pdf> > > This is what I had to do to get the document indicated. > > Regards, N0DGN I'll try that. I have always manually copied and pasted the url into the address bar because of the annoying line break. Let me re-post the message in case someone is confused. Don k4kyv --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k4kyv at charter.net Tue Sep 19 20:17:46 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:17:46 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted Message-ID: <000e01d331a5$e2d65ae0$a88310a0$@charter.net> NPRM (the original 1982 proposal), Report & Order (FCC's 1983 decision) and Petitions for Reconsideration are now posted on QRZ.com website. More documents to follow; this is a work in progress. Informative history for more recent newcomers to the AM community, which probably includes the majority of currently active AMers, and essential information for those wishing to submit comments to ET Docket 17-215, the FCC's enquiry regarding removal of obsolete or unnecessary technical rules. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k4kyv at charter.net Tue Sep 19 20:25:55 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:25:55 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted In-Reply-To: References: <001801d33103$3f3ef5b0$bdbce110$@charter.net> Message-ID: <001101d331a7$06683b30$1338b190$@charter.net> I tried your suggestion when I re-posted the message with update. The second link still didn't work; no hyperlink at all and tuned out a bigger mess than before, fragmenting the url into THREE lines. I've about given up trying to post links on this forum. > -----Original Message----- > All, > > Links "should" be enclosed with the symbols < >. Otherwise word wrap > makes the link unusable. > > > 17-80 > 0A1.pdf> 901/DA-17-800A1.pdf> > > This is what I had to do to get the document indicated. > > Regards, N0DGN > > > > On 9/19/2017 12:53 AM, Donald Chester wrote: > > NPRM (the original 1982 proposal) and Report & Order (FCC's 1983 decision) > are now posted on QRZ.com website. More documents to follow. > > http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/am-power-issue- > revisited.581553/ > > Informative history for more recent newcomers to the AM community, > which probably includes the majority of currently active AMers. > > Essential information for those wishing to submit comments to ET Docket 17- > 215, the FCC's enquiry regarding removal of obsolete or unnecessary > technical rules. > > http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0901/DA- > 17-80 > 0A1.pdf > > > > __________________________________________________________ > ____ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k4kyv at charter.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From edwmullin at aol.com Tue Sep 19 20:28:46 2017 From: edwmullin at aol.com (Ed) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:28:46 -0400 Subject: [AMRadio] Big resistors Message-ID: <3515C19A-3CB6-4BE7-85D2-6FA2095C58E7@aol.com> Hi All, I have a supply of 5000ohm 50 watt resistors. These are perfect for bleeders on your high voltage plate supplies. Also the little clips that hold them down. I have 30 or so beyond my needs. 10 make a good bleeder/voltage divider. $3 ea. Plus postage. Up for trades for tubes, any type used (except rectifiers) in the R390A, or 6146s. Please reply direct if interested. On another note, regardless of the above, I need a crystal for my Hallicrafters SR-46 to get on 50 meters. 25.2 MHz to get 50.4 out. HC-6U I think. Can't seem to find crystals for love or money anymore. Or if you've got the Hallicrafters VFO for that rig, and would part with it, that could work too. VR, Ed Mullin/KB1HYS From w5jo at brightok.net Tue Sep 19 21:25:45 2017 From: w5jo at brightok.net (w5jo at brightok.net) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:25:45 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Fw: Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted Message-ID: <08A8150501264574AD39A8A9247B4378@JimPC> http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0901/DA-17-800A1.pdf see if this works -----Original Message----- NPRM (the original 1982 proposal) and Report & Order (FCC's 1983 decision) are now posted on QRZ.com website. More documents to follow. http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/am-power-issue-revisited.581553/ Informative history for more recent newcomers to the AM community, which probably includes the majority of currently active AMers. Essential information for those wishing to submit comments to ET Docket 17-215, the FCC's enquiry regarding removal of obsolete or unnecessary technical rules. http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0901/DA-17-80 0A1.pdf --- From ranchorobbo at gmail.com Tue Sep 19 22:02:04 2017 From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:02:04 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Original FCC documents regarding AM power issue posted In-Reply-To: <001101d331a7$06683b30$1338b190$@charter.net> References: <001801d33103$3f3ef5b0$bdbce110$@charter.net> <001101d331a7$06683b30$1338b190$@charter.net> Message-ID: Some URLs are insane. look at this one: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/longest-url-ever.12236/ To mange a tough URL in an email, try http://tinyurl.com We sometimes use that where I work. 73 Rob K5UJ On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Donald Chester wrote: > I tried your suggestion when I re-posted the message with update. The > second link still didn't work; no hyperlink at all and tuned out a bigger > mess than before, fragmenting the url into THREE lines. > > I've about given up trying to post links on this forum. > From mjcal77 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 19 22:30:17 2017 From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 02:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] ARRL good report References: <1759835171.5588660.1505874617752.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1759835171.5588660.1505874617752@mail.yahoo.com> Don't know if you ever have emailed the tech staff at the League, but they are pretty good at answering those questions you might have after you have given up on a troubleshooting project.? The MT5-A xmitter I sent the email about, I had a question about tapped output versus linked output, and also said I had no idea what this rig looked like originally since I had no pictures.? After I had scoured the internet chasing leads for about a year,? Zack Lau found some pix by the next day and sent them to me, and as the saying goes, one pic is worth a thousand words.? This is both bad and good, since now that I have the pix, I also see what a hack job was done to the 40/80 tank circuit.? In the 'heart failure 101' class, the 40/80 output tank is a Miniductor #3016, the online search brought up a site that claims to be B&W and sells B&W Miniductors.? The online B&W site had the coil at the bargain price of $100.? Sorry MT5, you ain't getting a new coil.? Not sure if it is really B&W or somebody using their moniker because Surp Sales of NE has on their site that they bought all of the B&W inventory when they closed.??? But, Surp. Sales of NE did not even list a #3016 but did have a NOS #3020 which is the same 32 TPI and wire size but in a 1 1/4" diameter, for only 15 bucks, that is quite reasonable.? Break out the GDO and find some tap points Charlie W4MEC in NC From mjcal77 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 22 10:21:32 2017 From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] Dayton info from the CCA this morning References: <1731880654.7338128.1506090092420.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1731880654.7338128.1506090092420@mail.yahoo.com> This would probably be good info to pass on to others, it will surely effect all motels, not just the one mentioned: FYI... I just spoke with the red lion Inn in Dayton. This is the old Fairborn North where many of us stay. There are only 14 standard rooms left as of this date. There is a huge dedication going on at the Air Force Base the same weekend and rooms are filling up fast. Prices have gone through the roof so be sure and mention that you are a Collins Collector which may help.? For those of you that hesitated last year because of the new venue the entire weekend turned out great except for the usual downpours.? Dayton 2018 should be even better. From mjcal77 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 25 15:13:58 2017 From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] Flip side of ARRL good report References: <2013511990.8972839.1506366838671.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2013511990.8972839.1506366838671@mail.yahoo.com> Maybe he is out of town, or has me blocked as an emailer after my last discussion with him, but the 'Regulatory and Advocacy' fellow at the League did not comment on what I asked last week.? With the announcement of the FCC going to look over all it's rules and regs and weed out the archaic ones,? I asked if the ARRL, this time, would put it in simple words, that the ARRL supports the continued operation of AM on the ham bands.? No mode by bandwidth smoke screen, just a simple statement.? Hopefully they will not weasel word their support of AM this time. My previous email exchanges had to do with wanting a copy of the ARRL comment to the FCC about the new VLF bands.? To paraphrase, I was told to go the FCC website and look it up.Charlie, W4MEC in NC From k4kyv at charter.net Mon Sep 25 17:13:32 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:13:32 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Flip side of ARRL good report In-Reply-To: <2013511990.8972839.1506366838671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2013511990.8972839.1506366838671.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2013511990.8972839.1506366838671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01d33643$2449c740$6cdd55c0$@charter.net> > Maybe he is out of town, or has me blocked as an emailer after my last > discussion with him, but the 'Regulatory and Advocacy' fellow at the League > did not comment on what I asked last week. With the announcement of the > FCC going to look over all its rules and regs and weed out the archaic ones, I > asked if the ARRL, this time, would put it in simple words, that the ARRL > supports the continued operation of AM on the ham bands. No mode by > bandwidth smoke screen, just a simple statement. Hopefully they will not > weasel word their support of AM this time. > Charlie, W4MEC in NC I'm not sure that would accomplish anything. In fact, it might be counterproductive by suggesting the possibility that AM should NOT be continued. I would recommend instead to use this as an opportunity to revisit the AM power issue. For a narrative of the entire 1982-1991 proceeding at the FCC, go to https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/am-power-issue-revisited.581553/ YOU MAY HAVE TO COPY THE ABOVE URL IN FULL AND PASTE IT INTO THE ADDRESS BAR OF YOUR BROWSER, SINCE THIS FORUM OFTEN RENDERS URLS UNUSABLE DUE TO SPORADIC LINE BREAKS --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From wb6orz at comcast.net Mon Sep 25 18:36:40 2017 From: wb6orz at comcast.net (Leslie) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] Flip side of ARRL good report Message-ID: <457560035.130086.1506379000024.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: k4kyv at charter.net To: amradio at mailman.qth.net Cc: Sent: 2017-09-25 2:14:16 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Flip side of ARRL good report > Maybe he is out of town, or has me blocked as an emailer after my last > discussion with him, but the 'Regulatory and Advocacy' fellow at the League > did not comment on what I asked last week. With the announcement of the > FCC going to look over all its rules and regs and weed out the archaic ones, I > asked if the ARRL, this time, would put it in simple words, that the ARRL > supports the continued operation of AM on the ham bands. No mode by > bandwidth smoke screen, just a simple statement. Hopefully they will not > weasel word their support of AM this time. > Charlie, W4MEC in NC I'm not sure that would accomplish anything. In fact, it might be counterproductive by suggesting the possibility that AM should NOT be continued. I would recommend instead to use this as an opportunity to revisit the AM power issue. For a narrative of the entire 1982-1991 proceeding at the FCC, go to https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/am-power-issue-revisited.581553/ YOU MAY HAVE TO COPY THE ABOVE URL IN FULL AND PASTE IT INTO THE ADDRESS BAR OF YOUR BROWSER, SINCE THIS FORUM OFTEN RENDERS URLS UNUSABLE DUE TO SPORADIC LINE BREAKS --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. 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Prices do not include shipping from Florida. Thanks. 73, Ken, W8EK Ken Simpson E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 . From mjcal77 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 29 22:13:21 2017 From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] Revisit References: <1818531247.899429.1506737601390.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1818531247.899429.1506737601390@mail.yahoo.com> Not sure what a revisit to the AM power issue would accomplish since it is history, I visited there when it wasn't. The amount of traffic generated here and other places during the last brouhaha over the ARRL's vagueness in their true desires with the bandwidth/mode issue and an understanding or misunderstanding on their ultimate goal, could be easily avoided if they would be clear, and hopefully not continue their perceived dislike of AM. Seems that in their current universe, anything that does not use a computer to communicate may face a challenge. Charlie, W4MEC in NC From k4kyv at charter.net Sat Sep 30 01:41:41 2017 From: k4kyv at charter.net (Donald Chester) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:41:41 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] Revisit In-Reply-To: <1818531247.899429.1506737601390@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1818531247.899429.1506737601390.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1818531247.899429.1506737601390@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01d339ae$cae64e20$60b2ea60$@charter.net> > Charlie, W4MEC in NC wrote: > Not sure what a revisit to the AM power issue would accomplish since > it is history, I visited there when it wasn't. This is history that shouldn't be allowed to fade away; the FCC's on-line achieves go back only to 1982. The present-day Commissioners and staff, let alone the majority of to-day's amateurs, would unlikely have knowledge of this saga or access to its history, except by laboriously digging through dusty paper files somewhere, which may no longer even exist. The Technical Advisory enquiry might be a good opportunity to refresh memories and re-expose this shameful and inexcusably fraudulent history , which with the passing of time is rapidly fading from memory. Don k4kyv --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w2xj at w2xj.net Sat Sep 30 01:50:40 2017 From: w2xj at w2xj.net (W2XJ) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [AMRadio] Revisit In-Reply-To: <000e01d339ae$cae64e20$60b2ea60$@charter.net> References: <1818531247.899429.1506737601390.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1818531247.899429.1506737601390@mail.yahoo.com> <000e01d339ae$cae64e20$60b2ea60$@charter.net> Message-ID: <5FB1130EDF3D0B78.5518CB47-4974-44EB-AD45-3BDE7463FC08@mail.outlook.com> Amateur radio is both experimental and ad-hock. Prohibiting a specific mode is counter to the culture. This is why I no longer support ARRL.? Sent from my iPad _____________________________ From: Donald Chester Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Revisit To: > Charlie, W4MEC in NC wrote: > Not sure what a revisit to the AM power issue would accomplish since > it is history, I visited there when it wasn't. This is history that shouldn't be allowed to fade away; the FCC's on-line achieves go back only to 1982. The present-day Commissioners and staff, let alone the majority of to-day's amateurs, would unlikely have knowledge of this saga or access to its history, except by laboriously digging through dusty paper files somewhere, which may no longer even exist. The Technical Advisory enquiry might be a good opportunity to refresh memories and re-expose this shameful and inexcusably fraudulent history , which with the passing of time is rapidly fading from memory. Don k4kyv --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/amradio/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w2xj at w2xj.net From dburlew at nmax.net Sat Sep 30 08:30:42 2017 From: dburlew at nmax.net (Douglas Burlew) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:30:42 -0400 Subject: [AMRadio] Revisit In-Reply-To: <000e01d339ae$cae64e20$60b2ea60$@charter.net> Message-ID: After re-reading the FCC?s rationale for the change in power measurement for the Amateur Radio Service (graciously provided by K4KYV) the conclusion is they made a weak argument that has not aged well. So, there may be a glimmer of hope. Doug W3DBB

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